on 14-07-2015 06:09 PM
>> Harmony off the menu: AFP calls off Ramadan dinners after Muslim leaders object to raids and 'victimisation'
>> The Australian Federal Police has reportedly cancelled its annual Ramadan dinners after receiving backlash from some Muslim community members, who urged their leaders to boycott the event.
>> The AFP has been known for hosting the Eid dinners to celebrate the end of the holy month of Ramadan, as part of an ongoing commitment to engage with the Islamic community.
>> But a group named Concerned Muslims Australia had set up a petition calling on imams and representations to boycott the dinners being held in Sydney and Melbourne this year...
www.dailymail.co.uk/article-3159560/muslims-boycott-ramadan-dinners
on 16-07-2015 01:35 PM
@*julia*2010 wrote:The same is said in every conversation about indigenous people, domestic violence and feminism.
rubbish
there has been a lot of focus (conversations)
about domestic violence recently. i have not
heard it being discussed in context of victim
mentality
It always turns to that on here though. And there are always those who insist that as many or more men are victims of domestic violence. Along with the old women push men to violence by nagging.
on 16-07-2015 01:40 PM
They are "some of the muslim leaders who called for calm co-operation and support".
really ????
if you like their work - you might be
interested in these:
http://www.randaabdelfattah.com/novels-randa-abdelfattah.asp
http://mariamveiszadeh.com/opinion-editorials/
https://newmatilda.com/users/lydia-shelly
new matilda? that's a surprise
on 16-07-2015 01:43 PM
It always turns to that on here though.
i have read a few threads about
domestic violence and haven't seen it.
can you point it out next time?
on 16-07-2015 01:46 PM
@lloydslights wrote:
@i-need-a-martini wrote:An article from 2 high profile Sydney Muslims who signed the petition to boycott. Reading their frustration and you can understand their reluctance to partake in PR exercises dished out by Federal government agencies.
It's a bit like representatives of the Roman Empire inviting Christians to a Christmas dinner and assuming that the Christians will forget about the persecution in those 3 hours of food and fun.
Mariam Veiszadeh and Lydia Shelly are lawyers and community advocates.
Those 2 women do not hold a victim mentality.
These 2 women who wrote the opinion piece as above, not only signed the petition - they instigated the petition in the first place along with Randa Abdel-Fattah (author) in regarding the "Feast".
I believe they "benefit" from victim mentality. They are getting their names out to the public that may be able to use their legal resources which are probably funded by Legal Aid which is funded by ............................???
The term "ambulance chasers" comes to my mind.
DEB
Seriously?
Standing up fpr yourself is not using a victim mentality.
Yep, using the term ambulance chasing to describe lawyers doing their job confirms it's nothing but populist stereotyping.
on 16-07-2015 01:55 PM
@*julia*2010 wrote:They are "some of the muslim leaders who called for calm co-operation and support".
really ????
if you like their work - you might be
interested in these:
http://www.randaabdelfattah.com/novels-randa-abdelfattah.asp
http://mariamveiszadeh.com/opinion-editorials/
https://newmatilda.com/users/lydia-shelly
new matilda? that's a surprise
I do read those women, regularly. How else would I know they are on about?
Lydia Shelly:
We do not wear the badge of “victimhood” and those who believe that Muslim women, when they draw attention to racism, sexism or Islamophobia are “playing the victim card” are confused.
......
2014 was the year we saw women leading the way for social change. We saw women engage in dialogue with other women from a diversity of backgrounds to offer their support and we saw the transformation of hash tag politics into real action. #iwillridewithyou. #istandwithmariam.
Australian women showed the country what true leadership looked like in the face of ugliness and hate.
There was a disconnect in the way Australian women addressed issues of racism, sexism and Islamophobia and the political rhetoric that sought to divide, inflame and distract.
As women, in 2015, we cannot wait for government policy or organisations to address gender inequality.
We have the capacity to empower each other and stand with women not only within the borders of Australia, but on the international stage against racism, sexism and religious vilification, to foster resilience, speak justly and to be advocates for peace in the face of adversity.
Just like Mariam.
on 16-07-2015 02:19 PM
@gleee58 wrote:
@*julia*2010 wrote:They are "some of the muslim leaders who called for calm co-operation and support".
really ????
if you like their work - you might be
interested in these:
http://www.randaabdelfattah.com/novels-randa-abdelfattah.asp
http://mariamveiszadeh.com/opinion-editorials/
https://newmatilda.com/users/lydia-shelly
new matilda? that's a surprise
I do read those women, regularly. How else would I know they are on about?
Lydia Shelly:
We do not wear the badge of “victimhood” and those who believe that Muslim women, when they draw attention to racism, sexism or Islamophobia are “playing the victim card” are confused.
......
2014 was the year we saw women leading the way for social change. We saw women engage in dialogue with other women from a diversity of backgrounds to offer their support and we saw the transformation of hash tag politics into real action. #iwillridewithyou. #istandwithmariam.
Australian women showed the country what true leadership looked like in the face of ugliness and hate.
There was a disconnect in the way Australian women addressed issues of racism, sexism and Islamophobia and the political rhetoric that sought to divide, inflame and distract.
As women, in 2015, we cannot wait for government policy or organisations to address gender inequality.
We have the capacity to empower each other and stand with women not only within the borders of Australia, but on the international stage against racism, sexism and religious vilification, to foster resilience, speak justly and to be advocates for peace in the face of adversity.
Just like Mariam.
lol just couldnt write an opinion piece
in new matilda without:
We are in deep, deep trouble if Miranda Divine is seen as a beacon of knowledge on Muslim women, Islam or feminism. Or even Australian politics.
https://newmatilda.com/2015/03/06/just-mariam
interesting comment: (under the full article)
Of course the problem with this speech is not that the incidents claimed here are not true (sadly the probably are) but there is a very clear implication that anyone who is critical of the ideology of Islam is the indistinguishable from the sort of crass bully who would harass any woman in our public spaces. There is of course a huge difference.
Islam is not a benign faith it is an imperialistic ideology that wants to dominate the world through force of arms rather than by having attractive and beautiful ideas , it is irrevocably at odds with so many of the secular values that so many here hold dear yet so many are frightened to challenge the ideology.
on 16-07-2015 02:40 PM
on 16-07-2015 02:51 PM
@kilroy_is_here wrote:
Glee there is no evidence of truth in anything you write either , that's why they are called personal opinions, but unlike you I write what I believe , not what some one else tells me to believe
and thats why its always refreshing
to read your comments.
on 16-07-2015 02:54 PM
I note that both the New Matilda and the Guardian printed Lydia Shelly's Press Release in which the divine Miranda Devine's name is mis-spelt.
DEB
on 16-07-2015 02:55 PM
You are like a breath of fresh air in these quarters .