My heart beaks

[freddie*rooster]

For that poor little innocent baby tossed away like a sack of garbage down the storm water drain. I can't get my head around how any Mother could do such a thing. Never having gone through PND I can't fogive her actions as a Mother wouldn't you call out for help before it came to this?

[azureline**]

You can't be serious? nothing has been said about the woman, whether she has a job or is studying or what she is doing.

9 months? I can tell you, I have gone years without seeing a GP. I eas 18 weeks pregnant with number 4 when I visited the GP to get something for my car sickness.

6 pregnancies, worked until 1 week before number 1 was born, barely showed. Every one was different.

[polksaladallie]

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@*pepe wrote:

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@polksaladallie wrote:

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@*pepe wrote:

nup i'm not buying pnd as a reason.

maybe post natal psychosis i would buy, but then again from everything i read about that when Andrea Yates killed her children it takes longer than 24 hours to manifest itself.

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Summary

Postnatal depression (PND) affects some mothers in the days, weeks or months after giving birth. Symptoms may include lack of confidence, negative thoughts, feelings of being unable to cope or that life is meaningless, anxiety, difficulty sleeping and loss of appetite. Depression during pregnancy is called antenatal depression. Treatment may include support, therapy and medication.

Sometimes the mother wants nothing to do with her baby as soon as it is born.  There is no set "time limit".

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i am well aware of post natal depression - i have lived it for some time twice.

There is a huge difference between not wanting anything to do with your baby and actively throwing him down a drain in a bid to kill him.

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My comment was in answer to your statement that "it takes longer than 24 hours to manifest itself".  I said nothing about the woman's actions.

[cmcoins2000]

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@azureline** wrote:

You can't be serious? nothing has been said about the woman, whether she has a job or is studying or what she is doing.

9 months? I can tell you, I have gone years without seeing a GP. I eas 18 weeks pregnant with number 4 when I visited the GP to get something for my car sickness.

6 pregnancies, worked until 1 week before number 1 was born, barely showed. Every one was different.

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Yep, totally serious.

9 months.

I also have gone years without seeing a GP. - I am not pregnant.

18 weeks on the 4th - again - experience talks.

6 pregnancies - on the whole a very brave woman ( said with tongue in cheek - at 42 I was not going back for more )

Of course everyone is different.

She must have known there was going to be a baby - there is a heap of help out there.

Ok - even if she couldn't or didn't get any - to drop the result in a drain - ?????

[*pepe]

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@polksaladallie wrote:

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@*pepe wrote:

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@polksaladallie wrote:

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@*pepe wrote:

nup i'm not buying pnd as a reason.

maybe post natal psychosis i would buy, but then again from everything i read about that when Andrea Yates killed her children it takes longer than 24 hours to manifest itself.

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Summary

Postnatal depression (PND) affects some mothers in the days, weeks or months after giving birth. Symptoms may include lack of confidence, negative thoughts, feelings of being unable to cope or that life is meaningless, anxiety, difficulty sleeping and loss of appetite. Depression during pregnancy is called antenatal depression. Treatment may include support, therapy and medication.

Sometimes the mother wants nothing to do with her baby as soon as it is born.  There is no set "time limit".

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i am well aware of post natal depression - i have lived it for some time twice.

There is a huge difference between not wanting anything to do with your baby and actively throwing him down a drain in a bid to kill him.

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My comment was in answer to your statement that "it takes longer than 24 hours to manifest itself".  I said nothing about the woman's actions.

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i said from what i understood psychosis takes longer not depression

[siggie-reported-by-alarmists]

I heard on the radio news that the women stated to the police that she knew her actions could cause the baby to die.

She intentionally pushed the baby down the drain (2.5m drop)..... knowing it could die.

During several days of 40 degree heat, she did nothing to save the baby.

My thoughts are with this baby. What an amazing little boy he is, to have survived all he has already suffered.

I wish him a life of love and happiness for the rest of his life.......

[freddie*rooster]

The news tonight has the boyfriend and the mother as parted and they say the family didn't know she was pregnant.

[siggie-reported-by-alarmists]

I hope the people who discovered the baby and assisted the rescue, get some sort of citizen award.

What heros they are...... true life savers.

[the_great_she_elephant]

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@siggie-reported-by-alarmists wrote:

I hope the people who discovered the baby and assisted the rescue, get some sort of citizen award.

What heros they are...... true life savers.

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Heroes? Why? I am very glad they were there and were able to help, and yes, they certainly saved the baby's life, but  they weren't risking their lives and surely anyone who heard a baby crying in a drain would try to rescue it.

[***super_nova***]

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@siggie-reported-by-alarmists wrote:

I hope the people who discovered the baby and assisted the rescue, get some sort of citizen award.

What heros they are...... true life savers.

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Heroes!!!?  For calling for help on their mobiles?  You must be joking.  Hero is somebody who puts their own life in risk to save somebody.  Not doing something that any normal thinking person would do. 

[softail-joanie]

Heroes? Why? I am very glad they were there and were able to help, and yes, they certainly saved the baby's life, but  they weren't risking their lives and surely anyone who heard a baby crying in a drain would try to rescue it.

I certainly would try to save a baby in a drain, and thats while knowing that I would probibly get the blame for anything that might happen to the baby from being thrown in there.

Fallen Woman- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw0HzoOc1QI

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