NBN Rollout

[pct001wine]

From now on monthly Ready for Service lists and other key details will only be  available via the NBN Co sales portal, which isn't open to the  public. Instead the government will issue a weekly progress report  indicating the overall number of premises passed, premises serviceable and  services activated. These national figures will not breakdown the rollout to  specific locations. The figures no longer include areas where construction has  "commenced", as Communications Minister Malcolm Turnbull says they "do not  necessarily provide a meaningful indicator of progress".

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/computers/blogs/gadgets-on-the-go/nbn-co-rewrites-rollout-map--wi...

Seems a bit like the weekly reporting of boat arrivals.   Is this the hallmark of this new government - giving us the news they want us to have ?  Where's the transparency ?

[monman12]

FN: "The Telstra deal caused almost 2 years delay".??? Justify that comment,  or do you refer to Telstra refusing to decommission copper until blackmailed  by Conray to so do?

"Most economists and analysts rate it's performance as fair given the size and scope of the project."

The size and scope were known  before commencement, that is not a valid excuse (explanation). LeMay's comment encapsulates the ALP handling of what the ALP  were not equipped to do, initiate/oversee a commercial enterprise:-
"the National Broadband Network project has abjectly failed every construction target ever set for it"

As for: " The HFC does not cover all premises within their areas and are not adequate in peak times." what nonsense, I have been on cable for years and stream TV in peak times in Melbourne,  and if HFC was so inadequate why did the NBN fight tooth and nail to have its broadband content terminated?  

 nɥºɾ

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@monman12 wrote:

FN: "The Telstra deal caused almost 2 years delay".??? Justify that comment,  or do you refer to Telstra refusing to decommission copper until blackmailed  by Conray to so do?

"Most economists and analysts rate it's performance as fair given the size and scope of the project."

The size and scope were known  before commencement, that is not a valid excuse (explanation). LeMay's comment encapsulates the ALP handling of what the ALP  were not equipped to do, initiate/oversee a commercial enterprise:-
"the National Broadband Network project has abjectly failed every construction target ever set for it"

As for: " The HFC does not cover all premises within their areas and are not adequate in peak times." what nonsense, I have been on cable for years and stream TV in peak times in Melbourne,  and if HFC was so inadequate why did the NBN fight tooth and nail to have its broadband content terminated?  

 nɥºɾ

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The notion that the ALP is not capable is just biased nonsense. 

Renai is not the only commentator on the NBN.  You judge everyone elses service based on your own and yet you have admitted you don't upload. The people I know who do upload or live in areas that experience congestion problems do not judge the capacity of the HFC the same as you. 

The HFC was not built for broadband delivery and there are many premises within the areas that don't have access to it.  

Perhaps the rest of the people within those areas actually want access to a decent network as well as the "I'm alright Jack, stuff the rest of you crowd".

[cherry*135]

freaki - The equipment is installed within 3 metres (I think from memory) of a power supply. They do not randomly select a location and then tell people to get a power socket installed.  You have been listening to too many anti NBN shock jocks.

I agree with those comments above. Most rooms in our houses (living areas, bedrooms) have a power point, at least one, sometimes 2 double ones.

There would only be a problem if the best room to locate the NBN box inside didn't have any power points in it at all. In that case the home owner would need to get one installed if they want the NBN service.

When the NBN box was installed in my previous house it was located right next to a power point.

[cherry*135]

NBN require you to have a deicated power point where they are to install the boxs but they cannot tell people in some houses where they are going to put them untill they arrive to do it  & if no powerpoint on fitting.

How on earth would they know what room/position the box is going to be put in until they visit the house and see the layout of it?

The house I lived in had high beam ceilings in the living room areas. They put the NBN box in the front bedroom (which faced the street), as there was no ceiling in the living room to run the cables through from the street, through the bedrrom ceiling and down into the living area.

How would they know that before they came to look at the house?

[cherry*135]

the National Broadband Network project has abjectly failed every construction target ever set for it"

I don't see why that is surprising. No Govt has ever tried to carry out an enormous project like this before. How would any Govt be 100% sure their project would meet construction targets? There will always be some unforeseen circumstance that throws them off track in such a large project carried out over 8 or so years.

In the test area I lived in the NBN dug trenches for the fibre, they hit a lot of  basalt rock, which was unexpected, which caused delays in the rollout. Should they have known what was under the ground before they started the project?

The spokeswoman said work crews would continue to face the basalt rock challenge until the build was complete - longer boring and trenching timeframes were responsible for delaying the build in recent months.

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@am*3 wrote:

the National Broadband Network project has abjectly failed every construction target ever set for it"

I don't see why that is surprising. No Govt has ever tried to carry out an enormous project like this before. How would any Govt be 100% sure their project would meet construction targets? There will always be some unforeseen circumstance that throws them off track in such a large project carried out over 8 or so years.

In the test area I lived in the NBN dug trenches for the fibre, they hit a lot of  basalt rock, which was unexpected, which caused delays in the rollout. Should they have known what was under the ground before they started the project?

The spokeswoman said work crews would continue to face the basalt rock challenge until the build was complete - longer boring and trenching timeframes were responsible for delaying the build in recent months.

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One of the reasons they chose the trial areas was because of the terrain. In your area it was to test the rocky terrain and assess the challenges.  Brunswick for the old inner urban, Townsville for the tropics etc.

[poddster]

The delays were because of a lack of research, and no cost benefit being undertaken Conroy and Gillard just swallowed what Quigly fed then. They were told what the wanted to hear, that it was an election winner.

But its par for the course for Labor to rush in where angels fear to tread

[cherry*135]

I don't agree delays were due to lack of research. No matter who started a project of that scale they were going to come across unforseen problems that would cause delays. Impossible to predict everything that may happen in a project that big, Australia wide.

[poddster]

Yet in spite of that Conroy, Gillard and the NBN Co. continued to B/S people that it was all go.

Any organization worthy of its salt would have included time, amd mone for unforseen circumstances but not Conroy, Gillard or the NBN Co.

[poddster]

 Impossible to predict everything that may happen in a project that big, Australia wide.

More like getting ambitions confused with capabilities