on โ05-04-2013 09:04 AM
"There will also be a separate power supply box which includes battery backup that will keep selected phone services* running for up to five hours in case of power failure. *The backup battery only provides power for a phone service provided through a voice (UNI-V) port on the Network Termination Device. Phone and other services connected to the data (UNI-D) ports, and mains powered telephones, alarms and other devices such as cordless phones connected to any port will not work during a power failure."
Is this true?
So if I am without power for one week like we were this year will I not be able to make phone calls?
Considering that we were not able to even get out of town for four days and had a lot of people very distressed I would be very concerned that we had no power and in the future that means no phone.
on โ05-04-2013 12:34 PM
"if the sub exchange loses power then we lose dial tone.", Yes, but it should not lose network power immediately because of battery back-up.
"If the sub exhange retains power but there is an electrical outage past that point then we have dial tone but no power."
???, meaning the phone network is working as it should?
"The telstra reps acknowledged that the batteries had failed in the last situation" In what way did they "fail" ? instant back-up power is in the form of banks of expensive (imported) sealed 12volt gel-cel batteries with a guaranteed life (if float charged) of 6/8 years. These batteries are (should) be regularly checked and load tested, and then, in my experience, are replaced after 3 years. I used to buy them in bulk and sell them mainly to the country/bush areas for solar, caravans, boats, 4WDs, electric fences, back up power via inverters etc.
The batteries failing I do not understand!
The electricity and telephone service in our area over the last 18 months has been at the very best patchy and that has helped highlight the problem.
This is because of two main factors
environmental with oodles of floods and storms
and
replacement/movement of electrical lines inc high voltage ones and telephone not only because of the NBN but because of the Pacific highway duplication which is just about to start and where all the services were located
"if the sub exchange loses power then we lose dial tone.", Yes, but it should not lose network power immediately because of battery back-up.
I normally used to give it 30 minutes or so before I report an electrical outage after quickly checking the switchboard...however since I found out about the sub exchange I ring straight away to report in case the outage is on the wrong side of the sub exchange..because you never know whether you will have dial tone or not..
I takes about 3 or so minutes I guess from experience. If I ring integral straight away and try to get straight onto a customer service operator by choosing the line down emergency option rather than the electrical supply fault line then I get to report before the voice on the end just .. gets softer then dies.. into a zap?? as it did last time the electricity went off with an unexpected "scheduled outage" (as it has many times intermittantly over the last 18 months)
which means I have to pretty well go and climb the gumtree at the top of the driveway and swing way out to the left to get mobile reception that
.... sou--ds --ke --is
"If the sub exhange retains power but there is an electrical outage past that point then we have dial tone but no power."
???, meaning the phone network is working as it should?
yes
The batteries failing I do not understand!
I agree John.. that was the general consensus at the meeting... but the proof was/is in the pudding
on โ05-04-2013 02:51 PM
What a total joke. And now they are commandeering poles to string it up all around the place so it's a visual eyesore as well.
No, the joke is those who whinge about visual eyesore because of a thin optic fibre cable has been added to the thick cables already on the poles. Get a grip.
on โ05-04-2013 02:53 PM
I have an old Telstra phone for that reason too, az but if I'm reading ^^^^ correctly, it says there will only be 5 hours of battery power for those phones ?
If that's right, people will be seriously affected. I'm lucky that Telstra couriers me a sat phone if the phone service is going to be out for more than 48 hours........cause I'm special:-p
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on โ05-04-2013 02:56 PM
I am a renter.. where I live now is probably not where I will live in three years time..
People in town had no power for three or four days...
people in other areas had no power for several weeks...
I do think that the NBN has good points... I am concerned that the copper network will be ripped up and that there will be no other choice.
Bundaberg rollout is due to start any time and due to be finished by next year for the main part of town. http://nbnco.com.au/when-do-i-get-it/rollout-map.html?icid=pub:hme:rollout:hro:img
on โ05-04-2013 03:05 PM
No, the joke is those who whinge about visual eyesore because of a thin optic fibre cable has been added to the thick cables already on the poles. Get a grip.
I remember when Optus had a hard time getting it's cables out... people did not like the aesthetics or them hanging on the poles...
the people won out because it was deemed an eye sore.
Cables on wires here are not a good idea...
personally I don't' care..
And I am not in Bundaberg.... where I live now won't have fibre... ten minutes down the road will...
on โ05-04-2013 03:56 PM
I remember when Optus had a hard time getting it's cables out... people did not like the aesthetics or them hanging on the poles...
the people won out because it was deemed an eye sore.
Cables on wires here are not a good idea...
And I am not in Bundaberg.... where I live now won't have fibre... ten minutes down the road will...
They are not like Optus cables.
In the few places where they will be on poles they are on poles with lots of other cables already. what difference does adding another thin cable make?
on โ05-04-2013 03:58 PM
John. The areas that are covered by HFC are not completely covered so the build has to go into those areas anyway. The HFC suffers congestion issues in many areas and is not connected to MDUs. The reason for the deals are more complex than just to protect NBN profits as you keep suggesting.
on โ05-04-2013 04:47 PM
what difference does adding another thin cable make?
If they were on poles here then that might mean it would l actually come down to where i live.. BUT if there were wires on poles then the destruction of the tornados that took out over 50 poles in my area alone would have meant no phones for 7 days for sure... even longer... lol
Personally I think that in the right places poles are a very good idea... just like I think satellites are a great idea.... using what infrastructure we already have is important to keeping costs down.
on โ05-04-2013 06:12 PM
on โ05-04-2013 06:14 PM
I hope whatever comes in fixes my internet.
My internet drops out whenever my phone rings and whenever we get a lot of rain.
do you have a filter in the line?