Our courts must stand up to the Muslim who sits

[nero_bolt]

Magistrate Jacqueline Milledge was correct. Mohammed Issai Issaka was ”very disrespectful” in refusing to stand for her,

So she was wrong to not send him to the cells until he learned his manners.

Yes, credit to Milledge for at least challenging Issaka when he claimed this week his Muslim faith obliged him to stand for no person. Other magistrates and judges don’t.

But it is a pity it was a confrontation Isaaka won after half an hour.

Isaaka, charged over last year’s riot against an anti-Islamic YouTube video, had his defiance legitimised. He will inspire others who see Australian authorities as weak, and Islam as a powerful creed that justifies trampling on our laws and customs.

In this case the 44-year-old Lakemba immigrant trampled on a tradition – not law – of standing as a judge enters court.

This is not a mark of respect for the judge as a person. Isaaka was not, as he claimed, asked to stand for Ms Jacqueline Milledge.

He was asked to show respect for our rule of law – vital in turning individuals into a community, and tribes into a nation.

Does Isaaka understand that? He’s said to come from Africa. What does he think helped make Australia the safe and well-regulated haven that so many Africans and Muslims bust a gut to come to?

It is that we have laws which bind everyone, regardless of faith, color, wealth or place of birth. Equal protection under the law means we are judged on our merits, not identities.

This breaks down that dangerous temptation to play us-against-them games - to rob or bash Peter because he’s not in the tribe of Paul.

So it’s no surprise that Muslims who in the past refused to stand for our judges include some who feel so little duty to non-Muslim Australians that they plot to kill them.

In 2006, Melbourne preacher Abdul Nacer Benbrika refused to stand in his own trial, at which he was found guilty of leading a terrorist outfit.

In 2007, five Sydney men later found guilty of planning a terrorist bombing also refused to stand.

Other Muslims – determined to fit in – insist this refusal has no licence in the Koran.

“We should, as Australian Muslim citizens, respect the law of the land,” says the Lebanese Muslim Association.

So which Muslims would not show respect? Precisely those who feel none.

http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/andrewbolt/index.php/dailytelegraph/comments/column_our_courts_must_stand_up_to_the_muslim_who_sits/

[**meep**]

Why the need to mention culture at all?

It is bad manners and offensive to do what he did.....

he didn't consider it to be offensive or rude, in fact, he believed it was the right thing to do.

[azureline**]

Because in his culture it ISNT such a rude thing to do, thats why!

what culture would that be? and since he complied, perhaps he was not aware, so your request has educated him.

I have not experienced anyone doing that to me.

[azureline**]

he didn't consider it to be offensive or rude, in fact, he believed it was the right thing to do.

? were you there too? or do you know him? 😮

[**meep**]

what culture would that be? and since he complied, perhaps he was not aware, so your request has educated him.

I have not experienced anyone doing that to me.

I was under the impression that there was some kind of compromise, an agreement to accommodate him but that was from the initial report.  I haven't read the latest.

[**meep**]

? were you there too? or do you know him? 😮

I may be talking about another case.  Let me read the OP again.

[**meep**]

According to Issaka's strict interpretation of Islamic law, the prophet instructed that no one should stand for him. Therefore, if you would not stand for Mohammed, you should not stand for anyone.

"This is a deeply-held religious belief,"

I interpreted that as him believing he was doing the right thing ?????

Have I got it completely wrong? 

[colkym]

what culture would that be? and since he complied, perhaps he was not aware, so your request has educated him.

I have not experienced anyone doing that to me.

I am not naming cultures, just so you can label me racist.  Lets hope you do not experience that happening to you but if you should then perhaps you may like to come on here and tell people how it made you feel azureline.  I was merely doing my job, and hadnt spoken to/seen this person prior to this event so do you think its acceptable I sit there and cop it?  He had abused another staff member- another female, do you think she should just have stood back and said nothing when he shoved his hand in her face?  Sorry but I am not going to stand for it.

Yes someone from our culture would know that is rude, and yes I did educate him.  And there should be more of it, the person in court should show respect to, whether he is muslim, asian,  black, white, *insert any race here*- we have our own culture and that also should be respected every bit as much as anyone elses

[**meep**]

aha, ok, didnt realise we'd gone off topic already.  sorry.

have a nice day

[azureline**]

Meep, the comment was re the poster colkym's experience.

Colkym, I am not labelling you racist.

Meep, The link Eloi posted had more detail, it wasn't a cultural or religious thing, according to that report, nor a compromise as such.

[wareubin]

Why the need to mention culture at all?