on 13-05-2014 10:40 AM
The collapse of large parts of the ice sheet in West Antarctica appears to have begun and is almost certainly unstoppable, with global warming accelerating the pace of the melting, two groups of scientists reported Monday.
The finding, which had been feared by some scientists for decades, means that a rise in global sea level of at least 10 feet may now be inevitable. The rise may continue to be relatively slow for at least the next century or so, the scientists said, but some time after that it will probably speed up so sharply as to become a crisis.
“This is really happening,” said Thomas Wagner, who runs the National Aeronautics and Space Administration’s programs on polar ice and helped oversee some of the research. “There’s nothing to stop it now. But you are still limited by the physics of how fast the ice can flow.”
Two papers scheduled for publication this week, in the journals Science and Geophysical Research Letters, attempt to make sense of an accelerated flow of glaciers seen in parts of West Antarctica in recent decades.
Both papers conclude that warm water upwelling from the ocean depths has most likely triggered an inherent instability that makes the West Antarctic ice sheet vulnerable to a slow-motion collapse. And one paper concludes that factors some scientists had hoped might counteract such a collapse will not do so.
The new finding appears to be the fulfilment of a prediction made in 1978 by an eminent glaciologist, John Mercer of the Ohio State University. He outlined the uniquely vulnerable nature of the West Antarctic ice sheet and warned that the rapid human release of greenhouse gases posed “a threat of disaster.” He was assailed at the time, but in recent years scientists have been watching with growing concern as events have unfolded in much the way Mercer predicted. (He died in 1987.)
Scientists said the ice sheet was not melting because of warmer air temperatures but rather because of the relatively warm water, which is naturally occurring, from the ocean depths. That water is being pulled upward and toward the ice sheet by intensification of the winds around Antarctica.
Most scientists in the field see a connection between the stronger winds and human-caused global warming, but they say other factors are likely at work, too. Natural variability of climate may be one of them. Another may be the ozone hole over Antarctica, caused by an entirely different environmental problem: the human release of ozone-destroying gases.
Whatever the mix of causes, they appear to have triggered a retreat of the ice sheet that can no longer be stopped, even if the factors drawing in the warmer water were to reverse suddenly, the scientists said. At this point, a decrease in the melt rate back to earlier levels would be “too little, too late to stabilize the ice sheet,” said Ian Joughin, a glaciologist at the University of Washington and lead author of the new paper in Science. “There’s no stabilization mechanism.”
It's happening wether we believe it or not, my friends.
on 13-05-2014 02:59 PM
on 13-05-2014 03:04 PM
To coincide with the Antarctic Sea Ice reaching record highs, alarmists are now claiming the the Antarctic is melting at such a rapid pace that it can't be stopped.
In fact, the headlines claim Antarctic, but they actually mean West Antarctic Peninsula - they certainly don't let facts get in the way of their "hypothesis".
And now reports of a massive volcano under the very area they say is melting!
on 13-05-2014 06:32 PM
@nero_wulf wrote:To coincide with the Antarctic Sea Ice reaching record highs, alarmists are now claiming the the Antarctic is melting at such a rapid pace that it can't be stopped.
In fact, the headlines claim Antarctic, but they actually mean West Antarctic Peninsula - they certainly don't let facts get in the way of their "hypothesis".
And now reports of a massive volcano under the very area they say is melting!
That will give the Alarmists something to get hysterical about!.......poor alarmists....
on 14-05-2014 10:39 AM
Hmmmmmm......poor alarmists....lol.
on 14-05-2014 11:14 AM
14-05-2014 11:27 AM - edited 14-05-2014 11:31 AM
Indeed they are all real climatologists and experts......... and they oppose man made global warming......
Great post spot....
on 14-05-2014 11:41 AM
MIT Climate Scientist Dr. Richard Lindzen Rips UN IPCC Report:
‘The latest IPCC report has truly sunk to level of hilarious incoherence’ — ‘It is quite amazing to see the contortions the IPCC has to go
through in order to keep the international climate agenda going’
on 14-05-2014 11:57 AM
on 14-05-2014 11:59 AM
“Temperature measurements show that the [climate model-predicted mid-troposphere] hot zone is non-existent. This is more than
sufficient to invalidate global climate models and projections made with them!”- UN IPCC Scientist Dr. Steven M. Japar, a PhD
atmospheric chemist who was part of Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s (IPCC) Second (1995) and Third (2001)
Assessment Reports, and has authored 83 peer-reviewed publications and in the areas of climate change, atmospheric chemistry, air
pollutions and vehicle emissions.