Pauline Hanson calls for ban on Muslim immigration

[davidc4430]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-09-14/politics-blog-september-14/7842756

Does she not realise the muslims are here after hearing of us being over run by asians, they have come to throw the asians out of australia!

isnt that what she wanted last time she was in parliment?

just can't please some people, sheeesh!

[davidc4430]

i think there are good, bad and inbetween people in every group of people.

we have a large groupe in our society called 'bikies' who do all maner of criminal activity but they seem to able to avoid any attempts to get rid of them.

if there are muslims in our society doing things as you describe they are criminals. any doctor that knows of such practises and does not report them is also a criminal. even muslims go to the doctor.

there are how many murders in this country each year that have nothing to do with muslims or terrorism?

how many murders or attempted murders are committed by radicalised muslims each year?

i just think too many people are getting worked up over a non existent problem.

yes we have had a couple of radicalised crazies, and i feel sorry for anyone caught up in their craziness. 

but everyday you leave the house there are hundreds of ways your life can change for the worse and being involved in a terrorist attack is tiny.

i just cant see why we worry so much about a 'maybe' problem and ignore the things that actually excist. druged up kids breaking into ederly peoples homes, bashing them fo the few dollars they have.

the bleeding hearts who defend them, its the drugs they arnt in control its the drugs.

if someone breakes into your home i'm pretty sure its not a muslim 99% of the time.

[tezza2844]

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@davidc4430 wrote:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-09-14/politics-blog-september-14/7842756

Does she not realise the muslims are here after hearing of us being over run by asians, they have come to throw the asians out of australia!

isnt that what she wanted last time she was in parliment?

just can't please some people, sheeesh!

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Hanson "speech" ? much the same ramblings as her last "maiden Speech" just substitute Asians and Aborigines with Muslims.

[kopenhagen5]

No Asians - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHtDJ7GnjQY

[lyndal1838]

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@davidc4430 wrote:

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@lyndal1838 wrote:

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@davidc4430 wrote:

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@the_hawk* wrote:

why would any one want more of them here.

completly differnt values towards women and children
completly differnt social valves
completly differnt work ethics, do a few seaches and check the level of unemployment in the areas they have taken over.

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okie dokie

hands up anyone here who has any evidence of a muslim person miss treating a woman or child. 

hands up anyone who has been affected by a muslim social value.

hands up anyone who has evidence of different work ethics of muslims.

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Try reading the newspapers for evidence of the treatment of women and children...possibly no worse than any other religious group but none the less, it happens.

I can not say I am affected by their social values but then again I don't socialise with Muslims.  The ones I know prefer their own kind for socialising.  Any business related contact is always cordial.

As for work ethics....where my OH works they are notorious for wriggling out of work as well as taking time out for prayer.

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hmmm, i do read the newspapers and watch tv news programs. do i see muslims in australia miss treating women and children any more than australians? probobly because muslims are the target right now but i would rekon in reality more australian women and children front up to emergency departments of hospitals after getting thumped by their 'partners/farthers' than muslims. and thats allowing for the numbers of each in the community.

I did not say that Muslims were more likely to mistreat their women and children than any other religion...quite the opposite in fact.  But you were inferring that they do not do it at all.

And I have it on good authority that many of the Australian women and children who visit the emergency department of our local hospital are the victims of their Muslim partners/husbands/fathers.  Women who are identifiably Muslim because of their clothing do not tend to go to hospitals....they are encouraged to go to the local Muslim doctors who will not report the husbands anyway.

so you dont socialise with muslims, is that the muslims fault? its the chicken and egg thing, do they not mix with us or do we not mix with them? maybe if we did mix together more there would be less worrying about them being different.

At no time did I say it was the fault of the Muslims that I do not socialise with them.  The local Muslim community here is several suburbs away from where I live and I have no reason to go there....not for shopping, medical appoinments or any other legitimate reason.  And they certainly do not seek to make friends in this area...why should they when they are happy in their own community.

Also as I have already said....any business contacts with Muslims are always cordial.  Hospital staff, supermarket staff and any other muslims I have contact with in daily life are always pleasant, but that hardly qualifies as socialising.

now, if doing things to get out of work was a crime i'm pretty sure 90% of workers regardless of religion or ethnicity would be in trouble. they skype off to have a quick prayer you say....how many aussies skype off to have a **bleep**?

Skiving off work or taking a sickie is not what I meant at all.  In my OH's line of work the drivers have to take a minimum number of deliveries and the majority of Muslims take the very bare minimum....and are more likely to bring a higher number of parcels back at night as being unable to deliver.  The next day the other drivers have to take them out again.

What Muslims do in regard to skiving off for a quick prayer as you put it is not my concern....the management in my OH's workplace has had to provide a dedicated room for the Muslim staff to use and they must be allowed to take time off whenever their religion demands it.

I have no problem with that as such, but it would be frowned upon for any other religion to take time off work for their religious practice.  Why one religion and not others?

Even the armed services have to adapt their uniforms to accommodate the Muslims.

swings and roundabouts to me.

Yes, swings and roundabouts is fine....but why does everything have to swing in the Muslim's favour and force other members of society to accommodate their religious practices.

[lionrose.7]

Australia does not have a good record among its religious groups of treating children well, so many molested and beaten.

One of the best doctors we ever had was Muslim, caring and wonderful person to my husband and myself when my husband was very sick.

I judge a person on how they treat me and others not on their religion or how they dress.

[davidc4430]

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@lyndal1838 wrote:

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hmmm, i do read the newspapers and watch tv news programs. do i see muslims in australia miss treating women and children any more than australians? probobly because muslims are the target right now but i would rekon in reality more australian women and children front up to emergency departments of hospitals after getting thumped by their 'partners/farthers' than muslims. and thats allowing for the numbers of each in the community.

I did not say that Muslims were more likely to mistreat their women and children than any other religion...quite the opposite in fact.  But you were inferring that they do not do it at all.

And I have it on good authority that many of the Australian women and children who visit the emergency department of our local hospital are the victims of their Muslim partners/husbands/fathers.  Women who are identifiably Muslim because of their clothing do not tend to go to hospitals....they are encouraged to go to the local Muslim doctors who will not report the husbands anyway.

so you dont socialise with muslims, is that the muslims fault? its the chicken and egg thing, do they not mix with us or do we not mix with them? maybe if we did mix together more there would be less worrying about them being different.

At no time did I say it was the fault of the Muslims that I do not socialise with them.  The local Muslim community here is several suburbs away from where I live and I have no reason to go there....not for shopping, medical appoinments or any other legitimate reason.  And they certainly do not seek to make friends in this area...why should they when they are happy in their own community.

Also as I have already said....any business contacts with Muslims are always cordial.  Hospital staff, supermarket staff and any other muslims I have contact with in daily life are always pleasant, but that hardly qualifies as socialising.

now, if doing things to get out of work was a crime i'm pretty sure 90% of workers regardless of religion or ethnicity would be in trouble. they skype off to have a quick prayer you say....how many aussies skype off to have a **bleep**?

Skiving off work or taking a sickie is not what I meant at all.  In my OH's line of work the drivers have to take a minimum number of deliveries and the majority of Muslims take the very bare minimum....and are more likely to bring a higher number of parcels back at night as being unable to deliver.  The next day the other drivers have to take them out again.

What Muslims do in regard to skiving off for a quick prayer as you put it is not my concern....the management in my OH's workplace has had to provide a dedicated room for the Muslim staff to use and they must be allowed to take time off whenever their religion demands it.

I have no problem with that as such, but it would be frowned upon for any other religion to take time off work for their religious practice.  Why one religion and not others?

Even the armed services have to adapt their uniforms to accommodate the Muslims.

swings and roundabouts to me.

Yes, swings and roundabouts is fine....but why does everything have to swing in the Muslim's favour and force other members of society to accommodate their religious practices.

ok, so muslims are not any more likely than any other religious group to misstreat women and children.i dont think i inferred no muslim men misstreat women or children.

but you have it on good authority (is there any other in an argument?) that many of the australian women and children using your local hospitals emergency dept are victims of their muslim partners/husbands/fathers. me thinks you local hospitals emergency dept doest get much normal accident traffic then.

those 2 statements dont gel,

honestly, what percentage of the polulations non muslim women are partnerd with a muslim man? not a huge number i suspect. so those who are must all be getting misstreated in some way.

why would the muslim population want to socialised with a group of people who think they are all terrorists/wife or child beaters, lazy, bludgers?

the only real contact you seem to have had with these people has been quite normal, no problems at all yet your wanting to stop them comming to this country?just because they are different.

yep, we have had a couple go loony tunes and kill some innocent people. thats true. but how many innocent people die every year from us normal people going loony tunes?

were not a lot of us normal people shouting along with pauline 20 years ago, kick the asians out? well we didnt, and here we are in 2016, we are not over run by asians. i suspect in 20 years from now the muslims will not have over run our country. i hope by then we will not be in the middle east killing innocent men women and children. i hope by then muslims will not need to be running from the endless bombings in their own countries.

as to changing everything to suit the muslims. really? everything? 

nothing i do has been affected by any changes for muslims, has anyones lives changed for muslims really?

should we not try to make people comming here feel welcome? if they need a room to pray, so be it. as long i'm not required to pray i'm fine with it.

[village_person]

Pauline Hanson calls for ban on Muslim immigration

Good call. I can't stand them nor do I like them.

[davidc4430]

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@village_person wrote:

Pauline Hanson calls for ban on Muslim immigration

Good call. I can't stand them nor do I like them.

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they prolly dont think all that highly of you either.

[morgana2408]

It may be in your local ED many women and children are Muslim, but if you consider that 1 in 3 women will be a victim of DV in her life but according to last census only 2.2% of Australians identify as Muslim, then it works out that most of the abuse of women is not at the hands of Muslims, and maybe a lot non Muslim men need look at their attitudes towards women.

[lyndal1838]

You have completely missed the point I was making.

David said that there were very few Muslim women presenting at emergency departments therefore not much abuse of women by Muslims.

A friend of mine works in the ED of our local hospital and told me some time ago that the Muslim population is quite well represented in the DV cases presenting there but a casual onlooker would not necessarily notice as quite a few of the women/children were not of Muslim background and the women did not dress in typical Muslim clothing.  But they did have Muslim partners/husbands/fathers.