on 23-01-2014 04:15 PM
I could not agree more.. I have met people up here that are thrid or fourth generation on the dole. They do nothing to interact with the community and never attend the council meetings but are the first to complain when something goes wrong.
When I was reliant on welfare I use to volunteer and go to several events to keep up with what was going on and did my best to improve things for me and my community. I tried to give back whatever I could. I use to teach my kids that you never take welfare for granted as one day it will not be there for you.
My 19 yr old that has left home never applied for unemployment, even when he could not find a job he went around and dropped flyers to houses as an IT person and has started his own business. He always said that wlefare was for those in real trouble and that people should always try to fend for themselves.
We are running out of money... we cannot all expect to be supported forever... I know that we will always need some sort of welfare system, that some people will always be unemployable... but should we make them do more for that free money???
An Abbott government MP has accused dole recipients of trying to "screw the system", saying they are too self-interested to bother attending community meetings.
Mr O'Dowd told a community meeting on Monday night in Capella, north-east Queensland: "You won't get anyone on the dole coming to these sort of meetings, because they don't care about the community, they care about themselves and how they can screw the system".
The meeting was attended by about a dozen Capella residents.
In audio of the meeting heard by Fairfax Media, Mr O'Dowd also argued that too many Australians were exploiting the social security system, and that something needed to be done to stop welfare cheats. He recalled a conversation he had had recently with billionaire Gina Rinehart.
on 23-01-2014 08:32 PM
on 23-01-2014 08:40 PM
I know LTD... how upset am I .. sitting here crying....
on 23-01-2014 08:43 PM
@catsnknots wrote:lol.. ok.. all my fault...
seems people here can't take the post as a whole... and ALL of my other posts...
Who here is perfect in what they post. I had a dinner to go to and had spent the whole morning preoccupied with sorting out the fraud on my credit card... came here for a bit of a chat before I went out.
Well... you ended up reinforcing a misnomered stereotype "I could not agree more" whilst admitting you are an
example of the opposite.
I would hope that if you attend a meeting or even in social conversation in the future and like remarks were made even
though your hard work has paid off you could be just as sensitive and refute the remark.
on 23-01-2014 08:47 PM
Colic this woould not be the first time I have gotten into trouble for generalising... I forget you need to be very specific online as what you say comes out a bit different as you intended...
I am assuming that Ken actually was doing the same thing. I have net heard the whole tape but would love to know the full story... might have to make some phone calls.
on 23-01-2014 08:51 PM
on 23-01-2014 08:53 PM
on 23-01-2014 08:54 PM
I understand Catmad.
Generalising a minority standpoint is a good way to reinforce a/an (wrong) opinion
My point or question is rather than agreeing with the statement when you read it and deciding to post it and an affirmation
why did you not disagree with it and get "a little sensitive' about it because through personal experience you know it to be
false and post same?
on 23-01-2014 08:59 PM
I agreed because I have met many families that have been generations on welfare and they do not care about the community.
I guess I also didn't get sensitive because I never wanted to be on welfare and so didn't see it as a reflection upon me...
However, If I put myself in the place of some that may feel guilt over not being able to get a job and hate welfare like it is an embarrasment to be on it I can see why some would be upset.
But knowing of Ken and his reputation (I live one electorate over) I know that he would not be speaking about those people either.
on 23-01-2014 09:01 PM
on 23-01-2014 09:33 PM
{I think you may be invisible, LT.}