Politicians Retirement Funds & Perks Unsustainable

[fourandsixpants]

If a pension isn't an entitlement, neither is theirs. They keep telling us that paying us an aged pension isn't
sustainable.
Paying politicians all the perks they get is even less sustainable!
The politicians themselves, in Canberra, brought it up, that the Age of Entitlements is over.

Proposals to make politicians shoulder their share of the weight now
that the Age of Entitlement is over

1. Scrap political pensions. Politicians can purchase their own retirement plan, just as most other working Australians are expected to do.

2. Retired politicians (past, present & future) participate in Centrelink.A Politician collects a substantial salary while in office but should receive no salary when they're out of office.
Terminated politicians under 70 can go get a job or apply for Centrelink unemployment benefits like ordinary Australians.
Terminated politicians under 70 can negotiate with Centrelink like the rest of the Australian people.
3. Funds already allocated to the Politicians' retirement fund be returned immediately to Consolidated Revenue.
This money is to be used to pay down debt they created which they expect us and our grandchildren to repay for them.
4. Politicians will no longer vote themselves a pay raise. Politicians pay will rise by the lower of, either the CPI or 3%.
5. Politicians lose their privileged health care system and participate in the same health care system as ordinary Australian people.
i.e. Politicians either pay for private cover from their own funds or accept ordinary Medicare.
6. Politicians must equally abide by all laws they impose on the Australian people.
7. All contracts with past and present Politicians men/women are void effective IMMEDIATELY.
The Australian people did not agree to provide perks to Politicians, that burden was thrust upon them.
Politicians devised all these contracts to benefit themselves.
Serving in Parliament is an honour not a career.
The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, so our
politicians should serve their term(s), then go home and back to work.


THIS IS HOW YOU FIX Parliament and help bring fairness back into this country!

FYI: The TOTAL ANNUAL SALARIES (for 150 seats) = $41,694,311 - PER YEAR!
And that’s just the Federal Politicians

Should an elected PM serve 4 years and then decide to retire, each year (of the 4 years) will have cost taxpayers an EXTRA Two and a half million dollars a year! A$2,536,690 to be precise.

A 2 year retirement payment cut-off will SAVE our Oz bottom line A$792,201,909  

*** NEARLY $800 MILLION.

Push for a MAXIMUM 2 year post retirement payment give them time to get a real job.

[lind9650]

When I got this message from eBay, my reply message was wiped out. There was not one word I wrote to be seen. I did hit the reply button, but only the empty page came up again with the same red messge from eBay.

Erica   grrrrrrr

[go-tazz]

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@lind9650 wrote:

When I got this message from eBay, my reply message was wiped out. There was not one word I wrote to be seen. I did hit the reply button, but only the empty page came up again with the same red messge from eBay.

Erica   grrrrrrr

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Next time just go out of the thread and then back in to it.

Then go to reply on the same post and above it you will get this yellow box,(then click on Load to repost the

autosaved content).

Any Autosaved content is also available by clicking  on you ID whilst on the discussion boards and then

selecting the requred one from the Autosaved Drafts on the left hand side.

[aps1080]

Paint

Kevin Rudd gets $600,000 a year plus all the other ex PM perks.

Lucky Abbott put a pay freeze on Pollies pay !

[lind9650]

Thank you, tazz.

I will remember.

I used to highlight and copy everything before I posted a message just in case it disapeard in cyberland, but one can not paste the copied message anymore, so I did not bother and lost a long written message that I can't be bothered to rewrite again.

Will take note and keep reposting when it happens again.

Erica

[cherry*135]

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@aps1080 wrote:
Paint

Kevin Rudd gets $600,000 a year plus all the other ex PM perks.

Lucky Abbott put a pay freeze on Pollies pay !

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Wrong

[tezza2844]

"Lucky Abbott put a pay freeze on Pollies pay !"

That's one I haven"t heard !

[bella_again]

Have to agree with you 100% paints, it's just wrong that they line their own pockets while asking the poor to suffer and go without.

I believe there was a freeze on pay BUT I think they get it all back or some such thing after a certain period of time? Hopefully someone who has a bit more time will come back with some more info on that one 🙂

[fourandsixpants]

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@aps1080 wrote:
Paint

Kevin Rudd gets $600,000 a year plus all the other ex PM perks.

Lucky Abbott put a pay freeze on Pollies pay !

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am3:    Wrong

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Julia Gillard, Kevin Rudd, John Howard, Paul Keating, Malcolm Fraser, Bob Hawke, et al, add nauseum,are receiving $10 MILLION + EXTRA at taxpayer expense.

TOTAL ‘life time’ (20 year) payments, (excluding wages paid while in parliament) = A$833,886,220 – OVER $833 MILLION

Salaries of retired Prime Minister and Politicians Office

Additional salary (%)

Salary as of 1 July

Prime Minister

160

$507,338

Deputy Prime Minister

105

$400,016

Treasurer

87.5

$365,868

Leader of the Opposition

85.0

$360,990

House of Reps Speaker

75.0

$341,477

Leader of the House

75.0

$341,477

Minister in Cabinet

72.5

$336,599

Parliamentary secretary

25.0

$243,912

Other ministers

57.5

$307,329

Shadow minister

25.0

$243,912

Source: Remuneration Tribunal.

[lind9650]

In my opinion nobody should receive $1,000.- or more per day in retirment unless it is from their own investment, superannuation etc. Not from government funds from taxpayers money. After all, politicians are only glorified public servants that are supposed to work for the good of the people that have elected them and put their trust into them to do the right thing for our country. Not to line their own nestegg and sell everything to the highest bidder, then leave the country in a financial mess.

Public servants like Centerlink and Medibank workers etc, don't get that kind of retirement pay, nor the other perks that go with it. I wish Australian people would wake up and rebel aginst such unfair pay system.

Forget the protests about tree logging and enviromental destruction, about sustainable energy etc. Protest against the unfair pay  and perks politicians give themselves. This is one factor the independants, the greens, left or right never argue about. No matter what show they put on in public, about payrises they never disagree or call each other names like brawling School kids. How honest is that?

Politicians, once they leve parliament, should only be entitled to the same age pension as any other public servant. No less, no more. They earn enough during their MP time to provide for a comfortable retirement without turning into bludgers and leaning on the working men and women.

And don't start me on the Mining Tax. I'll explode.

Erica

[fourandsixpants]

Yes I agree with all your comments.

Many politicians work hard. Some do a good job. It's not their work capacity or ethics that I question here (though I could put to question another time in another debate) it's the outrageous and exorbitant amounts of $'s they get once they have FINISHED working in their respective elected positions.

I cannot see any justification for the present arrangement regards PERKS and RETIREMENT FUNDING for any of our politicians.

Arrangement needs to be changed so that it is fair imo.