Proof of halal scam

[ufo_investigations]

http://pickeringpost.com/story/proof-of-halal-scam-/3872

BOYCOTT HALAL!

[punch*drunk]

Why would I know or care when Halal certification started? Some things are just common sense, I'm pretty sure it didnt come over with the muslims in the 1800's just like I'm pretty sure the Koran makes no mention of plastic packaging.

If you want to talk about organic certification perhap you should start a thread on that

I wonder if I can get organic vegies in organic certified plastic? 🙂

[cherry*135]

The SA dairy company didn't make the decision to stop halal certification by themselves. They caved into pressure from negative comments directed at them on social media.

They are a fairly small regional company, $50 000 would be a good contract to them. Plus the loss of the contract means local employees will lose hours at work and dairy farmers income will reduce.. Negative flow on effects.

They may not be approached again in the future by other major companies requiring yoghurt with halal labels again either, limiting their ability to export their product and expand and grow.

[cherry*135]

Punch..
"Why would I know or care when Halal certification started?"

You claimed it was started a few decades ago? I would like to know what you based that comment on.

The reasons why consumers want to see certifications on products is the same whether it is halal labels or organic certification.. Thry require proof before they will purchase.
Proof of what 'is not in' or used in manufacturing/growing the products/produce.

[raptor_rebooted]

it happens -

Police during September confiscated 20,000 kilograms of pork meat disguised as beef which was being sold by a factory in Xi’an, capital of the Shaanxi province in northwest China. The incident is particularly scandalous as Xi’an has a large Muslim community, members of which bought the meat believing it to be halal beef.

The factory, raided by Police, treated the pork overnight with chemicals such as paraffin wax and industrial salts to change its appearance and sold it during the day. Between 1500 and 2000kg of meat was sold to local markets for 25-33 yuan (between £3.18 and £4.17) per kilo. Police raided six workshops in total selling the counterfeit meat.

The discovery is one incident in a line of meat-related controversies arising in the country over the course of the year. Between January and May 382 cases of meat related crimes were solved by the Chinese authorities, and the Medical Daily in May reported that 904 people had been arrested in “meat-related offences” during the previous three months. Included in these arrests was a gang who sold rat, fox and mink meat as mutton at farmers’ markets in the Jiangsu and Shanghai provinces, thereby making over 10 million yuan.

Chinese meat suppliers are not however alone in being involved in halal meat related controversies. In November 2011 a South Africa-based meat supplier, Orion Cold Storage Company, was allegedly selling pork products under a halal label. A spokesperson from the SA Meat Industry Company (Samic) stated that imported pork from Ireland and Belgium, buffalo meat from India and kangaroo meat from Australia was being sold by the Cape Town company as halal. Though the company denied the allegations, they accepted that some pork may falsely have been labelled as halal.

http://www.muslimnews.co.uk/newspaper/world-news/police-china-seize-pork-sold-halal-beef/

[cherry*135]

The opening post is a perfect example of halal label hysteria driven by social media and the spreading of misinformation.

[punch*drunk]

You claimed it was started a few decades ago? I would like to know what you based that comment on.

Why? Am I incorrect?

[cherry*135]

I don't know, I thought you would have based that timeframe on some information you have read?

[raptor_rebooted]

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@am*3 wrote:
Can you show the list of actual ingredients for that can?

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Canned pork mince with bean paste
Spec./ Net wt: 198G
Brand: Maling

pork, bean paste, mushrooms, chilli, onion, garlic, sugar

sounds positively delish NOT

[punch*drunk]

Too much time on my hands......the earliest mention I could find of halal certification (for meat exported to the middle east) was 1982.

Not sure when they started certifying oil based plastic products.

Did Muslims drink milk before certification came along?

[punch*drunk]

And even back in 1982 there were concerns about the certification system being open to abuse and the government needed to step in.