on 11-11-2014 05:40 AM
on 11-11-2014 04:01 PM
A lot of products are advertised as "Gluten Free", or "Cholestrol Free" simply as a marketing ploy, when if fact they have never contained either of those substances anyway.
on 11-11-2014 04:07 PM
@am*3 wrote:
The SA dairy company didn't make the decision to stop halal certification by themselves. They caved into pressure from negative comments directed at them on social media.
They are a fairly small regional company, $50 000 would be a good contract to them. Plus the loss of the contract means local employees will lose hours at work and dairy farmers income will reduce.. Negative flow on effects.
They may not be approached again in the future by other major companies requiring yoghurt with halal labels again either, limiting their ability to export their product and expand and grow.
Do you even see how skewed that sort of reasoning is, Am?
Get Halal certification or get out of business?
Workers rely on halal certification so they can get paid?
Watch out your business might not get any future contracts because you refuse halal certification?
Surely you see where the real pressure is?
How did workers get regular hours for regular pay before halal was heard of in Australia?
on 11-11-2014 04:15 PM
proof that pickering is a fraud a liar and a criminal
And it seems Pickering is in good company, Boris.
Western Australia’s economic regulator thinks the state’s potatoes are over-priced and of poor quality, with consumers denied choice of varieties.
The potato industry in WA is highly regulated.
Growers can't sell fresh potatoes for human consumption without a licence from the Potato Marketing Corporation The regulation that dates back to the mid-1940s controls prices and volumes grown.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-07-29/wa-potato-marketing-board-under-spotlight/5632874
The AWB oil-for-wheat scandal (also known just as the AWB scandal) refers to the payment of kickbacks to the regime of Saddam Hussein in contravention of the United Nations Oil-for-Food Humanitarian Program .AWB Limited is a major grain marketing organisation based in Australia. For much of the 20th and early 21st century, it was an Australian Government entity operating a single desk regime over Australian wheat, meaning it alone could export Australian wheat, which it paid a single price for. In the mid-2000s, it was found to have been, through middlemen, paying kickbacks to the regime of Saddam Hussein in exchange for lucrative wheat contracts. This was in direct contradiction of United Nations Sanctions, and of Australian law.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AWB_oil-for-wheat_scandal
on 11-11-2014 04:16 PM
@icyfroth wrote:
@am*3 wrote:
The SA dairy company didn't make the decision to stop halal certification by themselves. They caved into pressure from negative comments directed at them on social media.
They are a fairly small regional company, $50 000 would be a good contract to them. Plus the loss of the contract means local employees will lose hours at work and dairy farmers income will reduce.. Negative flow on effects.
They may not be approached again in the future by other major companies requiring yoghurt with halal labels again either, limiting their ability to export their product and expand and grow.Do you even see how skewed that sort of reasoning is, Am?
Get Halal certification or get out of business?
Workers rely on halal certification so they can get paid?
Watch out your business might not get any future contracts because you refuse halal certification?
Surely you see where the real pressure is?
How did workers get regular hours for regular pay before halal was heard of in Australia?
Before the export market he was looking at he supplied only what the local market demanded, hired as many people and purchased as much milk as needed for that market. By adding that export market they hire a few more people and purchase more milk.
on 11-11-2014 04:22 PM
Does that religion really enslave them so much they have to watch every little morsel of food or drink that passes their lips to make sure it is allowed? They must shroud themselves from head to toe and must not cut their hair,
We've just in the last century or so shaken off a religion that required such abslute obedience, and now wer'e going down the path of supporting another, similar one?
Get outta here.
on 11-11-2014 04:33 PM
@icyfroth wrote:Does that religion really enslave them so much they have to watch every little morsel of food or drink that passes their lips to make sure it is allowed? They must shroud themselves from head to toe and must not cut their hair,
We've just in the last century or so shaken off a religion that required such abslute obedience, and now wer'e going down the path of supporting another, similar one?
Get outta here.
It's called Freedom of Religion Icy, Muslims, Jews, Mormons and Seventh Day Adventists all have strict rules on what they may or may not eat or drink. Just because we don't follow those rules that doesn't somehow give us the right to dictate to them what they should do
on 11-11-2014 04:57 PM
@the_great_she_elephant wrote:
@icyfroth wrote:Does that religion really enslave them so much they have to watch every little morsel of food or drink that passes their lips to make sure it is allowed? They must shroud themselves from head to toe and must not cut their hair,
We've just in the last century or so shaken off a religion that required such abslute obedience, and now wer'e going down the path of supporting another, similar one?
Get outta here.
It's called Freedom of Religion Icy, Muslims, Jews, Mormons and Seventh Day Adventists all have strict rules on what they may or may not eat or drink. Just because we don't follow those rules that doesn't somehow give us the right to dictate to them what they should do
Understood, She-el.
It also doesn't give them the right to dictate to members of other religious groups how they are to cater to their religious beliefs.
In this instance, nobody has a problem with Aussie Muslims observing their halal traditions.
The problem lies in the non-muslim consumers not having any say in whether they want to pay extra for their groceries (and the packaging it comes in) to appease a religion they are not part of.
Especially not holding any businesses over a barrel by forcing halal accreditation on them or else lose market share.
on 11-11-2014 05:00 PM
Do you object to foods being labelled gluten free? It apparently costs extra (judging by my grocery bill now and again) to do this.
on 11-11-2014 05:04 PM
Ice cream.............. I can only buy the one labelled gluten free as the glucose might be made from wheat.
Ice blocks............ again, only a select few are not made with glucose from wheat.
11-11-2014 05:08 PM - edited 11-11-2014 05:10 PM
@azureline** wrote:Do you object to foods being labelled gluten free? It apparently costs extra (judging by my grocery bill now and again) to do this.
No I don't care about food being labelled gluten free. It's in the gluten-free section and I dont go there. I don't care if it costs extra, because I don't need to buy it!
Do you think all food should be gluten-free so you don't have to pay extra for it?
I think halal food should be similarly kept in it's own section so ppl know where to go if they need it and are prepared to pay the extral for it.