on 14-04-2015 11:11 PM
IF YOU are a parent weighing up the benefits of an expensive private school education over the public school system, take note. It makes no difference.
According to a new national study - the first of its kind in Australia - the birthweight, the amount of time a mother spends with her child and the educational levels of both parents contributes more to a child’s overall success at school rather than the institution.
Don't you feel a bit chuffed that you didn't waste your money sending your kid to a private school.
15-04-2015 12:20 PM - edited 15-04-2015 12:22 PM
This link for the 2014 HSC results for NSW makes interesting reading, it would appear the government selective schools do far better than the so called top private schools.
http://bettereducation.com.au/results/HscTopAchiever.aspx
Edited as I put wrong link in
15-04-2015 12:26 PM - edited 15-04-2015 12:27 PM
, it would appear the government selective schools do far better than the so called top private schools.
That is because Govt Selective schools only accept top students - based on their results in pre-entry tests.
on 15-04-2015 12:47 PM
@lind9650 wrote:
the school. Basically, people who pay for private school encourage their kids to finish year 12 and go to uni. Kids from drug and alcohol affected families, who have no support go to public schools.Excuse me, Nova, but I feel insulted.
I have raised nine children, all of them went to public School. We could have never aforded private School, but not because we were drug addicts or alcoholics. Sevn of our children finished year 12, some of them went to Uni and became professionals, others entred aprenticships and became tradesmen. Only two left School at 16 to join the Navy and served 20 and 25 years respectively.
I m proud of my family, even without Private Schooling.
They did not have drug and alcohol affected parents.
Erica
Why would you be insulted? I did not say that all kids that go to state school are from drug and alcohol affected parents. But the fact is that kids from background which makes it harder to achieve go to state schools, and bring the result scores down. That is why I am so much against the result tables being published; they do not always correctly reflect how good the school is. Obviously schools in disadvantaged areas with kids coming from non-English speaking homes, where parents even if they are supportive can give only limited assistance with the kids' studies, plus some problematic homes, may not have as high over all scores. But that does not mean that individual students cannot achieve in state schools.
By the way, my daughter also went to state school, and got 99.8% score in year 12.
on 15-04-2015 01:31 PM
@***super_nova*** wrote:
@lind9650 wrote:
the school. Basically, people who pay for private school encourage their kids to finish year 12 and go to uni. Kids from drug and alcohol affected families, who have no support go to public schools.Excuse me, Nova, but I feel insulted.
I have raised nine children, all of them went to public School. We could have never aforded private School, but not because we were drug addicts or alcoholics. Sevn of our children finished year 12, some of them went to Uni and became professionals, others entred aprenticships and became tradesmen. Only two left School at 16 to join the Navy and served 20 and 25 years respectively.
I m proud of my family, even without Private Schooling.
They did not have drug and alcohol affected parents.
Erica
Why would you be insulted? I did not say that all kids that go to state school are from drug and alcohol affected parents. But the fact is that kids from background which makes it harder to achieve go to state schools, and bring the result scores down. That is why I am so much against the result tables being published; they do not always correctly reflect how good the school is. Obviously schools in disadvantaged areas with kids coming from non-English speaking homes, where parents even if they are supportive can give only limited assistance with the kids' studies, plus some problematic homes, may not have as high over all scores. But that does not mean that individual students cannot achieve in state schools.
By the way, my daughter also went to state school, and got 99.8% score in year 12.
Bragging much? What she doing now?
on 15-04-2015 02:33 PM
on 15-04-2015 05:21 PM
@the_bob_delusion wrote:
IF YOU are a parent weighing up the benefits of an expensive private school education over the public school system, take note. It makes no difference.
According to a new national study - the first of its kind in Australia - the birthweight, the amount of time a mother spends with her child and the educational levels of both parents contributes more to a child’s overall success at school rather than the institution.
Don't you feel a bit chuffed that you didn't waste your money sending your kid to a private school.
No, not at all................... it wasn't wasted. However, there is a great deal more to the story than those few things, imo
on 15-04-2015 05:27 PM
@the_bob_delusion wrote:By the way, my daughter also went to state school, and got 99.8% score in year 12.
Bragging much? What she doing now?
And why not? I am very proud of her, and just wanted to point out that kids can do very well in state education system. She went on to university, did several jobs including being a flight attendant for few years, and now has has a great job in PR.
on 15-04-2015 05:37 PM
@am*3 wrote:, it would appear the government selective schools do far better than the so called top private schools.
That is because Govt Selective schools only accept top students - based on their results in pre-entry tests.
So do many of the private schools. Government selective schools also accept problem children that have been expelled from other schools
on 15-04-2015 07:55 PM
I don't think it matters either way. I have experience in both systems with good news and bad news stories.
We all want the best outcome for our kids but there is no right or wrong way or magical formula. We just do our best.
This word 'potential'... A rock has potential if its rolled down a hill or it can sit where it is and go nowhere.
on 15-04-2015 08:28 PM
@ten*teeny*tiny*toes wrote:I don't think it matters either way. I have experience in both systems with good news and bad news stories.
We all want the best outcome for our kids but there is no right or wrong way or magical formula. We just do our best.
This word 'potential'... A rock has potential if its rolled down a hill or it can sit where it is and go nowhere.
Their happiness is the main thing to help them perform well.