on 02-04-2014 11:47 AM
THE good sense and informed self-interest — the wisdom of (Aussie) crowds — shines through in a scientific poll from Galaxy Research on attitudes to Global Warming (sic).
The poll result can be captured in two conclusions. We don’t believe it’s necessarily happening — to coin a phrase; we are mostly climate sceptics now. And therefore, we sure as hell ain’t prepared to pay real dollars to ‘stop it’.
Sorry, I should have written that Galaxy polled attitudes to ‘Climate Change (in the absence of Global Warming)’.
That’s of course, the missing Global Warming that was predicted as undeniably certain by all the science-is-certain experts — who are now all united in scouring the planet to find where the hell it’s gone.
They seem to have settled on the deep oceans — a theory which, conveniently, can’t be checked, because there’s no historical data.
We don’t know deep ocean temperatures even 50 far less 200 or more years ago. Captain James Cook might have roamed the globe, but he unaccountably forgot to take the temperature thousands of feet below his Endeavour, along the way.
The Galaxy Poll was commissioned by the Institute of Public Affairs ‘think tank’. That will immediately have the grasping-at straws warmists dismissing it as denialist propaganda.
But the poll was done by Galaxy, not the IPA. It scientifically and rigorously assesses attitudes. Indeed, if anything the questions should favour the warmist opinion.
The easiest thing in the world is for someone to demonstrate they are ‘right thinking’ by endorsing ‘Climate Change ne Global Warming’.
The second easiest thing is to tell a pollster that of course they would be prepared to spend money to save the planet by stopping it; as opposed to having to hand over real cash right then.
Yet the poll which has been conducted since 2010 has shown very little change; and provides very little joy to the warmist cause, despite its ratcheting up of its ‘end of the world’ and ‘climate change is already here in your street and inside your house and it’s nasty’ rhetoric.
We are getting another dose of that rhetoric right now with the release yesterday of the UN IPCC’s final draft of its fifth report.
We’ve been getting warm-ups of the ‘end is nigher’ in the pages of Climate Central Australia — The Age. This included yesterday a spread across p2-3, warning of catastrophic devastation to be wreaked on your favourite cup of coffee.
No doubt today’s Age will be effectively an edition of the Climate Apocalypse Daily, plus some briefs on the real news.
Yet despite all this relentless (climate) fear and (carbon) loathing, pumped out not just by the Fairfax dailys, their ABC, and indeed also the NewsCorp papers, despite their supposed denalism, the Australian public remained stolidly unmoved.
In 2010, the Galaxy poll showed 35 per cent endorsement of the proposition that “the world is warming and man’s emissions are to blame”. The latest poll showed it had edged up only to 37 per cent.
Yes, this was significantly higher than those endorsing the proposition that “the variation in global temperature is just part of the natural cycle of nature”; which had dipped from 26 per cent in 2010 to 24 per cent now. The really significant number was the unchanged 38 per cent endorsing the proposition “there is conflicting evidence and I’m not sure what the truth is”.
By any objective — as opposed to theologically warmist — assessment, this is the rational attitude. Both in response to the reality of the highly, at least, conflicted evidence; and the huge costs of doing something to stop a problem that might not exist.
And in the specific Australian case, we could not stop anyway. Cut our emissions by 100 per cent; that is to say, close the country down; and we would cut global and indeed Australian warming — sorry, ‘Climate Change’ — by effectively zero.
So the poll shows a clear majority of 62 per cent of Australians are either sceptical or denialist. As a consequence, we are increasingly unwilling to throw money at ‘the problem (sic)’.
In 2010 some 15 per cent of poll respondents were prepared to pay $1000 or more a year in higher taxes and utility charges to fight global warming. Now only 11 per cent are.
There is a very, very clear plurality of 41 per cent that are willing to pay nothing, zero, zip — who, my comment, presumably want the carbon tax to go; and that it should be followed quick smart out the door by the expensive rort of wind and solar power.
This is up from 35 per cent in 2010.
Now true, about a similar number — 43 per cent — were prepared to pay between $100 and $500 a year. But that was down from 48 per cent.
And 25 per cent were in the clearly token category of being willing to pay $300 or less. That’s to say, they would be prepared to give up just one coffee a week to avert the very climate catastrophe that, among other things, The Age has warned us, will wreak such havoc on their coffee drinking.
Is The Age surprised by the lack of public enthusiasm? It shouldn’t be, on its ‘don’t mention the war’ approach to the symbolic pointlessness of the latest “Earth Hour,” of which it and its Sydney sibling used to be so enthusiastic about.
The IPA poll was conducted over the weekend. It was also the weekend of ‘Earth Hour’. Yet there wasn’t a single mention of it in either The Age or the SMH yesterday. Not even in one of the other global warming stories.
The Age had room for a largish pic of naked bike riders aimed at, well, showing a bunch of exhibitionists — and indeed, a portfolio of pics online.
But it couldn’t find room to celebrate and encourage those prepared to go without light for one whole hour on a Saturday night of all nights, to save the planet.
on 02-04-2014 12:30 PM
a pie chart result for chemtrailing/persistent contrails would no doubt show same response.
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Out of the frying pan into the fridge: the hysterical record of climate change
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on 02-04-2014 12:31 PM
I think we should be worried about Climate Change.
on 02-04-2014 12:43 PM
yes. I do too Icy.....based on what I see and have experienced in my own environ at present and weather/climate experiences during my life.
Just replied to OP some reasons why majority of popln might have become sceptical......'they' the powers to be, have deliberately bombarded us with masses of confusing info.
on 02-04-2014 03:26 PM
Indeed Nero......
on 02-04-2014 05:24 PM
I haven’t yet had a reply or reaction to my request to the Galileo Movement, whose project leader is Malcolm Roberts, a man I have never met or spoken to and have never endorsed:
I see Malcolm Roberts has reportedly said climate science is controlled by “some of the major banking families in the world” who form “a tight-knit cabal”.
This sounds very much like one of those Jewish world conspiracy theories that I despise.
Can you tell me what Malcolm meant?
I see I am listed as an adviser to the Galileo Movement. In the circumstances, and until I receive an innocent explanation for Malcolm’s reported comments, I’d ask that you remove my name.
Andrew Bolt
I note The Age has loved associating me with this movement and these comments, without going to the bother of asking me what my association really was. Only too delighted for the chance to smear.
UPDATE
On now receiving an email from Malcolm Roberts, I’ve sent this reply:
Malcolm,
Your conspiracy theory seemed utterly stupid even before I knew which families you meant. Now checking the list of banking families you’ve given me, your theory becomes terribly, shamefully familiar.
Two of the three most prominent and current banking families you’ve mentioned are Jewish, and the third is sometimes falsely assumed to be. Yes, this smacks too much of the Jewish world conspiracy theorising I’ve always loathed.
Again, I insist: remove me from the list of people you claim are prepared to advise you. I’ve never advised you, Malcolm, and would never want to. I am offended to be linked to you.
Andrew Bolt
on 02-04-2014 05:37 PM
I am hardly surprised at the results of this poll. The public is woefully uninformed when it comes to facts about the natural world. A recent report by the American National Science Foundation found that 26% of those surveyed believed the sun revolves around the Earth. Other surveys have found that 22% of Americans believe that the rapture will occur in their lifetime while 41% believe it will occur by 2050.
As for what Australian's believe, I found this article discussing the results of a Nielsen poll: http://www.theage.com.au/national/faith-what-australians-believe-in-20091218-l5qy.html
Among other things the article reports that 51% of Australians believe in angels, 22% believe in witches, 24% believe in UFOs, 41% believe in astrology and 27% believe the bible is literally true. On the topic of creation vs evolution, 23% believe all life was created about 10,000 years ago while 32% believe in intelligent design. On the other side of the coin 24% of respondents identified as atheists while only 6% identified as agnostics.
I see no hope for the future health of the planet. However, I take comfort in the thought that I will be dead before the world ends in 2050.
on 03-04-2014 10:23 AM
Why would you see no future for the planet, or believe that it will end in 2050?
on 03-04-2014 10:40 AM
So, many lies, so much fraudulent science. We can't be expected to believe anything the IPCC comes out with.
No warming for 15 years and this report took them 6 years to publis?? warmnongering is all they can come up with.
on 03-04-2014 10:52 AM