Putin found solution to Ukrainian crises

[***super_nova***]

Told Ukraine to withdraw their troops from the East Ukraine territory - did I hear that right!?  What was he drinking? 

[debra9275]

yes, that's one way to win isn't it lol

[the_great_she_elephant · Accepted solution]

If anyone has the time to read it, thisarticle and the comments following it are well worth the effort, they explain the current sitution and the polarised views of the parties involved simply and far more clearly than anything else I have yet read.:

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/116825/russias-war-crimea-could-have-happened-20-years-ago-didnt

[karliandjacko]

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

If anyone has the time to read it, thisarticle and the comments following it are well worth the effort, they explain the current sitution and the polarised views of the parties involved simply and far more clearly than anything else I have yet read.:

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/116825/russias-war-crimea-could-have-happened-20-years-ago-didnt

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Thanks.

[***super_nova***]

Thanks pretty good article:

"What can be done before it gets much worse? First of all, the U.S. and its allies should make a real show of force: They need to back Ukraine with all their military and economic might. Also, they should clamp down on Western assets of Russians officials and oligarchs and expand the Magnitsky list. Force is the only language Putin understands.

But at the same time, they should encourage new Ukrainian leaders to turn their country, where at least half of the people speak Russian in everyday life, into a role model for people in Russia proper. Make it a magnet and safe haven for broad-minded, entrepreneurial Russians. Help it set up innovative start-ups, particularly in the field of mass media: Russia is hungry for objective information. Russians badly need an alternative Russia. Ukraine, which centuries ago emerged as a nation after becoming a safe haven for runaway Russian serfs, is by far the best place to make it happen.

Leonid Ragozin is a freelance journalist based in Moscow. "

Easier said than done. I have some understanding of what is going on there beyond what we get in our media.

Some years ago I rented a room to foreign students doing some post grad degrees here.  One of them was Russian woman from Kiev; it was about 1995 or 1996, and she was a depute manager of a large company, but was absolutely desperate to get out of the country, because life for Russians there was getting very uncomfortable.  She was about 32 very beautiful and obviously intelligent, and she was so desperate to get out that she was willing  to marry the 1st total idiot that she came across.  He was English man she met on her visit to UK.  Hope she did not do it, but she was very worried about her mum and younger sister, who needed some medication not available to them in Ukraine.   And she expected to lose her job and be replaced by Ukrainian.

OK, that was some years ago.  But now we have some people in Ukraine working for us, and member of my family travelled recently  over there and spent several weeks there, just as the plane was downed. 

[fourandsixpants]

Hhhhmmmm....wonder what solution Putin will have to:

Ukraine signs $10 billion shale gas deal with Chevron

 http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/11/05/us-ukraine-chevron-idUSBRE9A40ML20131105

The agreement with Chevron, to extend for 50 years, foresaw an initial investment of $350 million by the U.S. major in exploratory work over two or three years, Stavytsky said, aimed at establishing the commercial viability of shale reserves in the 5,260 square km (2,000 square miles) Olesska, part of a band of shale which stretches from the Baltic to the Black Sea.

Earlier government figures set total investments, including extraction after exploratory drilling, at around $10 billion.......

The deal with Shell, which is at a similar level of investment, is for exploration at Yuzivska in eastern Ukraine.

With Russia angered over Ukraine's plans to sign a landmark agreement with the European Union which will mark a shift away from Russia's sphere of influence, the issue has flared again.

Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev has since said he or Moscow sees no reason  to cut gas supplies to Ukraine over the unpaid bill for now and has played down talk of an imminent "gas war" that might disrupt flows to Europe.