Pyne tackles 'bias' in classrooms with national curriculum review

nero_bolt
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ABOUT TIME... The lefties and the greens will hate this and the left teachers and unions will hate it as well..... GOOD hope they do as its about time the left and labor and the unions and teachers stoped brain washing our children with their twisted left views and we got back to values and teaching our kids properly...... 

 

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THE Abbott government has moved to reshape school education by appointing strong critics of the national curriculum to review what children are taught, amid fears a "cultural Left" agenda is failing students.

 

The Education Minister, Christopher Pyne, is seeking a blueprint by mid-year to overhaul the curriculum, warning that the rise of "remedial" classes at universities proves the depths of the problem in Australian classrooms.

 

Vowing to restore an "orthodox" curriculum, Mr Pyne named author and former teacher Kevin Donnelly and business professor Ken Wiltshire this morning to lead the review.

 

 

The appointments clear the way for reforms that could expunge parts of the history syllabus that Tony Abbott has blasted for favouring Labor and the unions but glossing over the work of Coalition prime ministers.

 

Mr Donnelly is a fierce critic of the "relativism" in the teaching program, while Professor Wiltshire has rejected the emphasis on "competencies" and urged a sharper focus on knowledge and assessment.

 

The looming changes could spark another "culture war", given past brawls, including John Howard's criticism in 2007 of the "shameful" neglect of Australian history and the disputes over Julia Gillard's introduction of the national curriculum in 2010.

 

Writing in The Australian today, Mr Pyne declares that parents want a curriculum that is "free of partisan bias" and deals with real-world issues.

 

Concerns about the teaching program have deepened in recent years as the nation lost ground in global assessments of reading, maths and science, putting Australian students behind their counterparts in Vietnam, Poland and Estonia.  (all under Julia and labor and the billions they threw at the system only to fail) 

 

 

Canberra and the states agreed on changes to the curriculum last year but the new review throws open the debate to the public, allowing for wider consultation and possibly the holding of open hearings.

 

Mr Pyne said he expected the states to accept the need for change, given signs of the problems with the current curriculum

 

I think the fact that universities are teaching maths and English remedial courses is a symptom of an education system that isn't meeting the needs of students who go on to university, and that's something the reviewers will be taking a close look at," Mr Pyne said. "The term 'remedial' implies a remedy for a problem and one of the priorities for all governments should be removing the problem."

 

 

A key complaint about the curriculum is its emphasis on seven "general capabilities" rather than essential knowledge in fields such as maths, English and history.

 

Former History Teachers Association president Paul Kiem has warned that this led to a "tick a box" approach to teaching a subject. A similar view was put by NSW Board of Studies president Tom Alegounarias.

 

Mr Donnelly, a regular contributor to The Australian, has warned against a "subjective" view of culture that neglects the Judeo-Christian values at the core of Australian institutions.

 

He has also savaged a civics curriculum that teaches that "citizenship means different things to different people at different times", rather than preparing students for an understanding of their responsibilities. "The civics curriculum argues in favour of a postmodern, deconstructed definition of citizenship," he wrote last year.

 

"The flaws are manifest. What right do Australians have to expect migrants to accept our laws, institutions and way of life?

 

"Such a subjective view of citizenship allows Islamic fundamentalists to justify mistreating women and carrying out jihad against non-believers."

 

Mandating a "cultural left national curriculum" would fail students, he wrote.

 

Professor Wiltshire branded the curriculum a "failure" last January - prior to changes that were put in place last year.

 

"A school curriculum should be based on a set of values, yet it is almost impossible to determine what values have been explicitly used to design the proposed model," he wrote of the changes under the Gillard government.

 

"Curriculum should also be knowledge-based, yet we are faced with an experiment that focuses on process or competencies."

Professor Wiltshire also attacked the "astounding devaluation of the book" in modern teaching.

 

In his outline of the changes, Mr Pyne points to complaints that history classes are not recognising the legacy of Western civilisation and not giving enough prominence to big events in Australian history such as Anzac Day.

 

Mr Pyne told The Australian yesterday he "most definitely" stood by his past criticisms of the curriculum, including its neglect of business and commerce in the country's history.

 

"I believe the curriculum should be orthodox and should tell students about where we've come from and why we are the country we are today, so we can shape our future appropriately," he said.

 

He said he supported the "unvarnished truth" in the curriculum on everything from the treatment of indigenous Australians to political history. "There is little place in a curriculum for elevating relativism over the truth."

 

Deals with the states are a key factor in the plan after The Australian reported last month that some state education ministers had challenged Mr Pyne over his "command-and-control" approach to the teaching program.

 

The ministerial talks were held amid the heated debate over the government's shifting position on a $1.2 billion outlay on the Gonski education reforms.

 

Mr Pyne told The Australian there was a "moral suasion" to improving the teaching program.

 

"The states, I am sure, would want to implement the best curriculum without a financial incentive to do so," he said.

 

The current curriculum has three priorities across subjects - indigenous culture, Asia and sustainability - but Mr Pyne questioned their merits.

 

"It's difficult to see in maths and science how those three themes are necessarily relevant," he said in an interview. "Themes should not be elevated above a robust curriculum."

 

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/pyne-tackles-bias-in-classrooms-with-national-curri...

 

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@lakeland27 wrote:

 we are already too inward-looking. there's little to be learned from that. i'm sure a encyclopedic knowledge of the history of Burundi will do little for a persons job prospects, saturation of the corriculum with topics like Anzac's is equally useless in the job market.

they already know this stuff.


you're missing my point, it's not the facts, it's the lessons derived from those facts

 

"thery already know that" what do they know, and how do they know it?

 

 


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@lakeland27 wrote:

@*mrgrizz* wrote:

did you know "F" no longer appears on report cards

 

can't have your children thinking they are dumb


 if a child is struggling they already know it. no need to rub it in .  how about a return to dunce caps ?


but does a parent act on it?

 

 


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Crikey - Australian history is already taught in schools. I don't think Aust history (as an educational subject) has anything to do with buying a house. People who don't study History at school cope perfectly doing that.

 

History or Sciene isn't compulsory.. some students don't like, or have the aptitude for Science, some students have no interest in History (of any country) why should they not be able to choose subjects (at Secondary School) that suit their interests, aptitudes and possible career choices (Scientist, Lecturer in History at Uni)?

 

Career choices are limited with an Arts degree majoring in History.

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@crikey*mate wrote:

@lakeland27 wrote:

 we are already too inward-looking. there's little to be learned from that. i'm sure a encyclopedic knowledge of the history of Burundi will do little for a persons job prospects, saturation of the corriculum with topics like Anzac's is equally useless in the job market.

they already know this stuff.


you're missing my point, it's not the facts, it's the lessons derived from those facts

 

"thery already know that" what do they know, and how do they know it?

 

 


well in the case of the two i have at school these topics have been done to death. i have no objection to that, but i'd prefer a broader study of historical events . i object to taking up more time re-hashing this stuff i feel could be put to better use.

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@crikey*mate wrote:

@am*3 wrote:

An education is provided to prepare students for the future.. for employment mostly.  We are living in 2014 now, not the 1950's.


and don't you prepare for your future by evaluating experiences from the past?

 

"last time it rained, I didn't close my window, so my bed got wet. Next time, I will remember to close the window.

 

 


School should teach the majority of students read, write, learn maths, learning to play with others etc.. learning to close you window when it rains has nothing to do with being employable. A person could learn that without ever going to school.

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@crikey*mate wrote:

@lakeland27 wrote:

@*mrgrizz* wrote:

did you know "F" no longer appears on report cards

 

can't have your children thinking they are dumb


 if a child is struggling they already know it. no need to rub it in .  how about a return to dunce caps ?


but does a parent act on it?

 

 


only individual parents can answer that, the reports show how they stack up so why humiliate ?

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

I think the fact that universities are teaching maths and English remedial courses is a symptom of an education system that isn't meeting the needs of students who go on to university

 


So what is new? When I first met Elizabeth Jolley 20 odd years ago she was teaching remedial English at a University. How many Governments, both State and Federal and on both sides of politics have we had in that tme?

 

When I did my O levels in UK (roughly the equivalent then of the old Leaving Certificatehere) we studied two English courses, English Literature and English Language. English Language encompassed all the 'boring' bits - grammar, syntax, spelling comprehension etc - BU,T a pass in this subject was the one thing  demanded by nearly all prospective employers.

I can't speak for what the current situation is in England , but I'm pretty sure if the current Austrlalian system put more emphasis on teaching the mechanics of the English Language, then I wouldn't be conducting workshops with creativeely gifted children who simply don't have the tools to express clearly what they want to write. 


The classes are not remedial in the same context as primary school remedial either. They are more about correct grammar, structure and academic writing than what would be classed as remedial english in a traditional sense. I'm fairly sure they're not called remedial english either.  It's more a refresher course of the forgotten rules of english or maths. It reminds me of the old use it or lose it principle.

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Those remedial English classes at Uni, are most likely used by more international/foreign Uni students who come to Aust to study than students who went to school in Aust.  anyway.

Extensive studying of ANZAC Day and Aust history isn't going to improve literacy & maths skills (both of which Pyne refers to)

anyway.

 

 

 

Christopher Pyne: curriculum must focus on Anzac Day and western history - that is the issue and imo it is a insular, dumb idea.

 

Asia is a lot closer to Australia than Northern Europe.

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What our local Uni college (pre entry to Uni) offers

 

UOW College offers five levels of General English for beginner, elementary, intermediate and advanced English lanuage students.

The courses provide students from all cultural backgrounds with the opportunity to learn English within the context of both Australian and international culture and prepares interested students for more formal academic study. Students are provided with opportunities to acquire and practise their language skills in a communicative and interactive language environment including excursion activities.

 

English Studies 1, 2, and 3 provides students with the language they need in the real world including language for work, study, travel and international communication. Grammar and vocabulary are set within real life situations and reading and writing tasks are designed to practise new language.

 

In English Studies 4 and 5 the course focuses on speaking fluency and improving listening and comprehension skills in a wide range of social, professional and academic situations. Language skills are developed within a wide range of high-interest topics with an international and business perspective.

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@am*3 wrote:

Crikey - Australian history is already taught in schools. I don't think Aust history (as an educational subject) has anything to do with buying a house. People who don't study History at school cope perfectly doing that.

 

History or Sciene isn't compulsory.. some students don't like, or have the aptitude for Science, some students have no interest in History (of any country) why should they not be able to choose subjects (at Secondary School) that suit their interests, aptitudes and possible career choices (Scientist, Lecturer in History at Uni)?

 

Career choices are limited with an Arts degree majoring in History.


its not about career choices though, it's about opreparing people for society.

 

Haven't you ever wondered why we have to insure our posessions at different points in time, depending on what the purchase is? Transpose that across all areas of life.

 

If we stop teaching it (because lets face it, someone has to know) at some point there will come a time when no one knows and understands...

 

and people won't even know to look for it.

 

and that's all well and good if you want to breed a country of people to follow whoever is in power without thinking for themselves.... (back to godwin, why was Hitler able to convince so many people that "the jews were bad"? Because they didn't know any better. That's what they believed anyway, and here was someone coinfirming their beliefs, validating their beliefs, so they had no need to question their beliefs. All could have been resolved if people "knew" why and how Jews had been viewed as they were at that point in time...

 

 

Jeez, people don't even understand when they enter a basic contract. and they do this hundreds of times a day. People really bel;ieve that if you don't sign something, then it's not binding. People believe that children cannot enter into legal enforceable contracts (they do hundreds of times a day too) and the reasons is because they don't understand the events that led to the laws being what they are.

 

We see it here all the time, people not liking something (such as a political action) and they are unable to look at the broader implications of the decision... Just one angle.

 

History is the basis of a communicative society. It's what shaopes our intrapersonal variables and determines how we act and behave and interact with the rest of society.

 

For example, a war veteran may have experienced atrocities at the hands of the Japanese, so they say "all Japs are bad" and refer to them in derrogastory terms, imagine what would happen to the next generation, their children, if they did not learn why they thought the way they did. How would we change? How would society change and evolve?

 

History is NOT about facts, it is about Socialization of a person far beyond that communicative element, into society,

 

The reasons that little kids are taught to walk in a straight line to walk to the library to change theior library books at school, is entrenched in history and the Industrial Revolution.


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