on 09-02-2015 04:42 PM
A senior rabbi believes the justice system should be more lenient towards pedophiles who have repented.
Pedophiles who are no longer abusing children should not have to spend their lives feeling like the "scum of the earth", Rabbi Yosef Feldman also told the royal commission into child sex abuse on Monday.
"I would be asking for more leniency on people who have shown that they haven't offended in the last 20 years or decades ago, and have psychological analyses that this is the case," Rabbi Feldman said.
"Once someone is not a pedophile any more or is showing (he) is not acting wrongly any more, that should be considered in a very strong way."
Rabbi Feldman said this would encourage other pedophiles to repent, and not act on their sexual urges towards children.
The more lenient approach would show "when you do the right thing, you won't get mistreated badly and it's not the end of the world ... then you are not treated like a pariah, like a scum of the earth".
on 10-02-2015 01:06 AM
on 10-02-2015 01:30 AM
on 10-02-2015 08:44 AM
@myoclon1cjerk wrote:
Coincidence?
http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CCAQqQIwAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fm.theage.com.au%2...
Coincidence?
That the both articles are from the evidence given at the Royal Commision into child sexual abuse?
on 10-02-2015 10:25 AM
@jean2579 wrote:
Could I please put forward the perspective of a survivor, not of a paedophile but rather of religious sanctioned abuse and terror for a period of 8 years as a child.
When I gave evidence before the Commission last year it was the first time in over 60 years that I heard those magical words "we believe you".
Does this Rabbi know what it is like almost 6 decades later, still not to be able to go to sleep until it is daylight because that is when you feel safe.
Does he know what it is still to find yourself crossing to the other side of the street when you see a person wearing a certain type of religious dress, even though logic tells you that this person was not even born when you were harmed.
Does he have any idea what it feels like to not be able to trust any other person, even your partner fully, or Children and to know that no matter how hard you try, you never will.
Does he have any idea that the greatest fear of survivors that as they are ageing, the terror which comes with the thought of perhaps being put into some church run retirement centre. I have spoken with quite a few people who are now in this situation and their decision is the same as mine, we would rather commit suicide than ever return to any religious run institution..
No amount of trauma counselling can ever remove your fears or nightmares.
I wonder if the Rabbi really thinks of the survivors at all.
<<<<hugs>>>>>
And no Jean he doesn't think of the victims as he is too busy trying to protect his religion.
He forget that the victims are part of the religion.
on 10-02-2015 10:55 AM
@grandmoon wrote:
@jean2579 wrote:
Could I please put forward the perspective of a survivor, not of a paedophile but rather of religious sanctioned abuse and terror for a period of 8 years as a child.
When I gave evidence before the Commission last year it was the first time in over 60 years that I heard those magical words "we believe you".
Does this Rabbi know what it is like almost 6 decades later, still not to be able to go to sleep until it is daylight because that is when you feel safe.
Does he know what it is still to find yourself crossing to the other side of the street when you see a person wearing a certain type of religious dress, even though logic tells you that this person was not even born when you were harmed.
Does he have any idea what it feels like to not be able to trust any other person, even your partner fully, or Children and to know that no matter how hard you try, you never will.
Does he have any idea that the greatest fear of survivors that as they are ageing, the terror which comes with the thought of perhaps being put into some church run retirement centre. I have spoken with quite a few people who are now in this situation and their decision is the same as mine, we would rather commit suicide than ever return to any religious run institution..
No amount of trauma counselling can ever remove your fears or nightmares.
I wonder if the Rabbi really thinks of the survivors at all.<<<<hugs>>>>>
And no Jean he doesn't think of the victims as he is too busy trying to protect his religion.
He forget that the victims are part of the religion.
and he also forgets who needs the most support and care,
I often wonder if these people are that way inclinded themselves when they make those comments.
The same as when judges dismiss vivtims and treat them as they are the guilty party, then you have Gov ministers working hard to keep things quiet and shut down victims.
on 10-02-2015 11:43 AM
It would seem he is out on a limb and about to be pushed.
https://www.facebook.com/ECAJewry/posts/852387708152872