on 29-08-2014 10:47 AM
Russia sends ground troops and heavy weapons into the Ukraine to support separatist ground forces
Over 1500 girls sexually assaulted in Rotherham (a small English community of about 200,000) by a ring of mostly Pakistani men, with reports being delayed or not followed up because of fears of being labelled racist.
A young Asian girl racially vilified by an aboriginal male on a Perth train.
An Asian proprietor of a Sydney Café refuses to hire a man because he didn’t believe his customers would want to be served by a “black man”.
Another group of Syrian prisoner’s or war summarily publically executed by Islamic extremists
43 Fijian UN Peace Keepers captured and held hostage by Islamic Extremists on the Syrian-Israeli border.
on 29-08-2014 11:44 AM
@watta*drama*queen wrote:Straight from the Communist Party of Great Britain - Proletasrian online!
lol was wondering why there was no link
to the article in borysgary's post
on 29-08-2014 11:45 AM
@tall_bearded01 wrote:Ah yes, the all-encompassing, the end justifies the means line of reasoning, even if it means you have to overlook an invasion or two, or a few instances of mass murder.
So when do you imagine we will be going into Israel, to defend and aid the people of Palestine against genocide?
on 29-08-2014 11:46 AM
@*julia*2010 wrote:
@watta*drama*queen wrote:Straight from the Communist Party of Great Britain - Proletasrian online!
lol was wondering why there was no link
to the article in borysgary's post
oh yes because it is such a big top secret and no way could it be sourced...hahahahahahahahahha....shhhhhhhhhh - it's a secret that i am a communist...shhhhhhh
on 29-08-2014 11:48 AM
29-08-2014 11:50 AM - edited 29-08-2014 11:52 AM
on 29-08-2014 12:03 PM
ok i won't tell anyone
we won't name names
on 29-08-2014 12:38 PM
@tall_bearded01 wrote:Ah yes, the all-encompassing, the end justifies the means line of reasoning, even if it means you have to overlook an invasion or two, or a few instances of mass murder.
You are correct in your analysis of the US. I won't even mention the use of depleted uranium, oh changed my mind....
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/19/us-depleted-uranium-weapons-civilian-areas-iraq
US fired depleted uranium at civilian areas in 2003 Iraq war, report finds
http://www.countercurrents.org/polya200313.htm
https://www.iraqbodycount.org/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/15/iraq-death-toll_n_4102855.html
Iraq Death Toll Reaches 500,000 Since Start Of U.S.-Led Invasion, New Study Says
on 29-08-2014 01:01 PM
on 29-08-2014 01:04 PM
Where the current Islamic State crisis is concerned and the kidnapping of all those poor girls in Nigeria - I think it is the sheer scale of the horror that stops people from starting threads. If you look at the political threads on here they are all concerned with what the government or oposition has done, hasn't done, should do or shouldn't do - none of which, despite the shock/horror expressed by some posters is really going to bring the world crashing down around our ears.
Faced with the kind of nightmare happening in Iraq, Nigeria and even Gaza, however, we are overwhelmed and ultimately voiceless because what can we possibly say that would help anyone or even alleviate our own horror? Blaming America, Islam, Israel, or Russia is ultimately pointless, because the causes of these conflicts are so convoluted and stretch so far back into history that they have taken on a momentum of their own quite ouside any considerations of right or wrong or whose fault it is.
I think our belief in the permanence of our own civilisation has been shaken to the core. Nothing lasts forever: the Roman Empire collapsed, the Ottoman Empire collapsed, the British Empire collapsed and so did the Soviet Union. It is not beyond the realms of possibility that Western Democracy will also collapse. It probably won't be in my life time, It may be in my grandchildren's and it may be that the system which overruns it is islam - Sharia Law.
If so, then that system won't last either - at least not in its present state -because no system can endure wthout evolving and Sharia Law is still stuck in the days of the Reformation and the Inquisition. It simply does not have the flexibility to cope with the the modern technological and scientific age.
on 29-08-2014 01:57 PM
I do think a lot about Syria, and I am furious with both the US and our government who have quitely supported the uprising because they wanted Bashar al-Assad gone. They criticized Russia who as worried about the islamist. OK, we do not like Assad, I do not like Assad but I liked what was happening in Syria even less.
So, we know that Russia is arming Assad, we also know that Iran, Saudis, Iraq, Turkey, Jordan, Qatar and United Arab Emirates, are all promising support for fight against IS. So who on the earth has armed the IS fighters, and where did they spring from without anybody, including Israel who know which car is driven by Hamas leader, noticing that there is an army capable taking over Iraq being formed?