on โ01-03-2020 08:49 AM
on โ01-03-2020 08:55 AM
on โ01-03-2020 08:56 AM
gambling is a mugs game, for every 'winner' there has to be a zillion losers
they dont just give money away
on โ01-03-2020 09:13 AM
I agree with you. Don't risk the roof over your head.
I only own one property but have a friend who has something like half a dozen investment properties and a couple of others she owns outright.
She never risks their home. When she is going for another loan, it is one of the other properties that is on the line.
Personally, if i were you, I would never borrow against your home for money. Buy only what you can afford in cash. That's pretty well how I live, anyway. I don't have the latest in cars or furniture or anything but what i have is mine and I can sleep easier knowing we have no debts of any kind. It frees up money too when there is no mortgage.
Now re lotto. I consider myself a bit of an expert there.
I ran the Tattslotto syndicate at work for 20 years.
There were about 35-42 people in it each year and we all put in $1 a week.
I bought tickets that were approximately to that value, just slightly under actually. It is hard to do it exactly to the cent as prices on tickets are odd amounts etc
But anyway, we had a little win about every 4-5 weeks. Div 4 or 5. So maybe $12-$30 back for every $140-$180 spent? Something like that.
Tattslotto is like poker machines. They are tweaked to give a certain percentage back in prizes, it is a mathematical principle. So even if you put in $1 and get 80c back, you might feel good but actually you've lost 20c. Then if you continue gambling, inevitably, you will end up losing it all. Unless you are one of the statistically very rare species that wins a first div. That's what everyone hangs out for though, isn't it!
In all my 20 years of spending $35-$40 a week, we only ever had one bigger prize, a div 3. That was about $1500, from memory and we got it twice (system ticket I think).
Tattslotto is fine for a little flutter with friends, as long as you know it's a mug's game & you're probably giving away your money. A superannuation savings plan it is not.
Yes, you're $11k in front. If you had $50 a week to spare and religiously saved it in a special account, you'd be much better off.
on โ01-03-2020 09:19 AM
By way of a PS about Lotto.
Because the work tickets came to slightly under what I was being paid, plus we had some winnings through the year, in Dec I would add it all up (deducting the cost to pay for tickets over the Xmas holidays) and then divide it between syndicate members.
Usually it came to about $20-$30 per person.
Staff were absolutely rapt with that, coming as it did just before Christmas. But of course, they had spent $52 a year to get that.
But, I had a lot of very happy people on my hands at the end of the year.
on โ01-03-2020 10:21 AM
on โ01-03-2020 01:48 PM
Using the house as collateral doesn't sit well with me.
It's like jumping out of perfectly good, working airplanes, ha ha.
If it works for you, I'm happy to stand on the sidelines and applaud, politely, but it's not something I could see myself doing.
For some people it's an unacceptable risk, for others it's a golden opportunity...
Now if you'll excuse me I've got five bucks riding on how long it'll take a cockroach to climb a wall...
I could come out of this with twenty bucks...
I'd be in the money! (And I'd probably end up blowing the lot on groceries, ha ha)...
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on โ01-03-2020 01:56 PM
on โ01-03-2020 02:01 PM
on โ01-03-2020 02:05 PM
@martinw-48 wrote:
I'm not a gambler.
I don't buy Lotto tickets.
Cham recently said that those who own their home could take out a line of credit to capatilise on the current market.
As someone who has failed at everything they've attempted except for achieving home ownership I feel it would be stupid to risk my one success to achieve something that doesn't drive me anyway, gaining money.
More money would be great but I have more money now I'm not paying for the roof over my head.
My girlfriend spends $100 a fortnight on Lotto.
I know she's had two big wins totalling fifteen thousand but in the ten years I've known her that's cost twenty six thousand.
In my mind I'm eleven thousand in front
Martin. Mate. To each their own.
Cham does things his way and he lives a full, interesting, and to him, enjoyable and fruitful life.
You do things your way and are living your life to the best of your ability. Reading your posts, not too enjoyable, but hey, everyone has play with the cards dealt them. I get that.
If I were you, I wouldn't be risking the house either.