Senate inquiry into Halal certification.

[daydream**believer]

Brilliant.

Whether people support halal certification or not, there are lots of people with lots of concerns so its time to investigate it all.

http://www.3aw.com.au/news/bernardis-inquiry-into-food-certification-schemes-20150514-gh1c32.html

Here are the reasons i am against halal certification and the questions i want answered.
1. Why are the fees paid by businesses for halal certification kept secret? Why do the businesss have to sign non disclosure agreements?

2. Why are there 20+ privately run halal certification companies in Australia, all charging whatever amounts they want, when Indonesia only has 1 Government run halal certifier? If foods need to be halal certified, then let the Government run it and let the money go back into the whole Australian community.

3. For meat to be halal, the animal needs to be slaughtered a certain way, throat slit while animal is conscious by a Muslim. Yes, there are some abattoirs that use a reverse stun but, from what i have researched, there are at least 15 abattoirs in Australia that slaughter animals using no stun. It is barbaric. This video is very graphic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAQJ-FZo1cA

4. Australia is a predominantly Christian country, so why are we being forced to eat meat that has been prayed over to a "god" that we dont even recognise?

5. If halal certification is supposed to help Muslims recognise what they can and cant eat, then why do so many companies that pay for the certification stamp choose not to display it on their products?

6. Why are abattoirs paying a certification fee and then packing all the meat in one truck and delivering it to butchers and supermarkets who then put it all in the one fridge and display it all in the one display fridge. Once pork products are shelved, stored or transported with other meats, the other meats immediately become non halal anyway. So Aussie Muslims cant eat it anyway.

7. We are told halal certification monies goes towards to building of more mosques and Islamic schools. We know that there are quite a few mosques where the hatred of Australia is preached. As for Islamic schools, the same schools where a principal has said that girls are forbidden to run in races because it will cause them to lose their virginity. Do we need schools like that here?

8. In Canada halal certification money was found to be used to fund organisations linked to extremist organisations. I have no doubt that would be happening here as well.

9. Halal is a part of sharia law and we DO NOT want any part of Sharia law in Australia.

So, what would i like to see? Id like halal certification to be a Government run organisation. Id like every business who pays for halal certification to have to display the stamp on their products. I want all Australian abattoirs to stun before killing. That would be a nice start

[azureline**]

really? they are taxpayers, the tax collected is used by the Government....... you know how it works......

[icyfroth]

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@azureline** wrote:

really? they are taxpayers, the tax collected is used by the Government....... you know how it works......

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do you have a breakdown of how may muslims are actually taxpayers and are not recipients of various benefits the Aus government provides?

[azureline**]

Non profit....... yes but they do make a profit....and use it in the community. Still a business and don't pay tax.
Lol at numerous posting id's.

[bushies.girl]

Not for profit is is NOT a business, it's an organisation  .... Can NOT make a profit

[azureline**]

Go your hardest.....

[i-need-a-martini]

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@bushies.girl wrote:

Not for profit is is NOT a business, it's an organisation  .... Can NOT make a profit

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Of course it is a business and of course they can make a profit.

It simply means that members/owners of that business cannot benefit from those profits. The profits are instead returned back into the running of the business or donated outwards to others not connected to the business.

[i-need-a-martini]

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@azureline** wrote:

really? they are taxpayers, the tax collected is used by the Government....... you know how it works......

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do you have a breakdown of how may muslims are actually taxpayers and are not recipients of various benefits the Aus government provides?

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That is about as dumb as asking if you have a break down of how many non-muslims are actually taxpayers and are not recipients of various benefits the Aus government provides?

(As taken from a 2007 report tabled in Parliament) there is very little difference in unemployment for Australian born Muslim males. But yes, there is higher unemployment for Muslim migrants. And that is understandable given that they recieved the highest level of discrimination of any group other than our own indigenous people.

[bushies.girl]

And thats why they are referred to as and organisation NOT a business   ...... Martini I really cant be bothered arguing with you, I find you far too aggressive, so you have a lovely day, I know I shall 🙂

[polksaladallie]

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@bushies.girl wrote:

Not for profit is is NOT a business, it's an organisation  .... Can NOT make a profit

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hahahahaha

They make a dollar on a used shirt, and poof !   They have to give it back to the customer and close the doors.

[i-need-a-martini]

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@bushies.girl wrote:

And thats why they are referred to as and organisation NOT a business   ...... Martini I really cant be bothered arguing with you, I find you far too aggressive, so you have a lovely day, I know I shall 🙂

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No argument required. The facts are simple.

If it is a commercial activity (if it sells or trades something), it is a business.

As an example, Red Cross is an ORGANISATION. However, their Red Cross Shops are referred to as a BUSINESS. They trade. They make a profit.