Senate inquiry into Halal certification.

[daydream**believer]

Brilliant.

Whether people support halal certification or not, there are lots of people with lots of concerns so its time to investigate it all.

http://www.3aw.com.au/news/bernardis-inquiry-into-food-certification-schemes-20150514-gh1c32.html

Here are the reasons i am against halal certification and the questions i want answered.
1. Why are the fees paid by businesses for halal certification kept secret? Why do the businesss have to sign non disclosure agreements?

2. Why are there 20+ privately run halal certification companies in Australia, all charging whatever amounts they want, when Indonesia only has 1 Government run halal certifier? If foods need to be halal certified, then let the Government run it and let the money go back into the whole Australian community.

3. For meat to be halal, the animal needs to be slaughtered a certain way, throat slit while animal is conscious by a Muslim. Yes, there are some abattoirs that use a reverse stun but, from what i have researched, there are at least 15 abattoirs in Australia that slaughter animals using no stun. It is barbaric. This video is very graphic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAQJ-FZo1cA

4. Australia is a predominantly Christian country, so why are we being forced to eat meat that has been prayed over to a "god" that we dont even recognise?

5. If halal certification is supposed to help Muslims recognise what they can and cant eat, then why do so many companies that pay for the certification stamp choose not to display it on their products?

6. Why are abattoirs paying a certification fee and then packing all the meat in one truck and delivering it to butchers and supermarkets who then put it all in the one fridge and display it all in the one display fridge. Once pork products are shelved, stored or transported with other meats, the other meats immediately become non halal anyway. So Aussie Muslims cant eat it anyway.

7. We are told halal certification monies goes towards to building of more mosques and Islamic schools. We know that there are quite a few mosques where the hatred of Australia is preached. As for Islamic schools, the same schools where a principal has said that girls are forbidden to run in races because it will cause them to lose their virginity. Do we need schools like that here?

8. In Canada halal certification money was found to be used to fund organisations linked to extremist organisations. I have no doubt that would be happening here as well.

9. Halal is a part of sharia law and we DO NOT want any part of Sharia law in Australia.

So, what would i like to see? Id like halal certification to be a Government run organisation. Id like every business who pays for halal certification to have to display the stamp on their products. I want all Australian abattoirs to stun before killing. That would be a nice start

[janeababe]

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

"The Australian Muslim community are getting the benefit of the certifications. All money from halal services goes to the community."

Is that a problem?

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It seems to be a problem here.

Muslim haters, whinging about Halal Cert that doesnt directly interfer with their activities of daily living in any way!

Got nothing better to do than sterotype all muslims in the same Halal basket to make themselves feel more superior!

MAKES MY BLOOD BOIL!

I have met, spoken with, eaten with many muslim folk.
They are fantastic people. They are NOT ALL secretely trying to bomb us or become the next super-power!

[the_great_she_elephant]

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@*julia*2010 wrote:

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

"The Australian Muslim community are getting the benefit of the certifications. All money from halal services goes to the community."

Is that a problem?

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if you read the rest of it - one of the main objections

is funding religion ie religious places of worship/schools etc.

(and as per the sbs article - there is no evidence where

the money is actually going - hence the inquiry)

no different to those who refuse to fund christian

churches.  if you objected to certain church's 

conduct - would you be happy buying products 

knowing that some of the profits go to funding the

church?  i know a lot wouldn't.

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If I didn't want my money to fund those churches or organisations I wouldn't buy those products. However I wouldn't assume that gave me the right to try to prevent other people from buying them.

[raptor_rebooted]

well there are obviously some ppl who

feel very strongly about it and promoting

boycotts is not illegal in australia. 

to janeababe - i hope it won't be long before

all unstunned slaughter becomes illegal in

australia like in many other countries whether

you like it or not

just because you have become desensitised

to something - does not make it acceptable.

what reasons do you have to believe that 'free range'

is not in fact free range?  i would like more information

please ie who makes the false claim and what proof

you have. 

which companies  sell products with halal labels

when in fact the products are not halal? 

[iapetus_rocks]

Halal certification.

It's a certification relating to certain foodstuffs (mainly meat and animal products)

It's a foodstuff certification system and therefore should be under direct government control and administration.

[cherry*135]

8. In Canada halal certification money was found to be used to fund organisations linked to extremist organisations. I have no doubt that would be happening here as well

LOL and you expect others to take your 'concerns' seriously.

[azureline**]

So every food related business should be under government control and administration?

[iapetus_rocks]

Are you talking to me? 😉

Any person (or business concern) who purports to offer a certain certification for food, should, in my opinion, definitely be subject to govt oversight and regulation.

[azureline**]

They are subject to the same rules as every other business in Australia.

My phone only allows me to reply to the OP

[iapetus_rocks]

Ok, fair enough. Just so the process is open and transparent.

[lal-au0]

some people here dont seem to understand the difference between halal and certified halal.

i resent paying the jizya in a western country.

i wil be cooking halal food for a dear muslim friend of my family tomorrow who i dearly like.

i am not a racist, as islam is not a race.

i just cant see why i should be paying the jizya in australia.

if i lived in saudi arabia - fair enough. but not here.