Senate inquiry into Halal certification.

[daydream**believer]

Brilliant.

Whether people support halal certification or not, there are lots of people with lots of concerns so its time to investigate it all.

http://www.3aw.com.au/news/bernardis-inquiry-into-food-certification-schemes-20150514-gh1c32.html

Here are the reasons i am against halal certification and the questions i want answered.
1. Why are the fees paid by businesses for halal certification kept secret? Why do the businesss have to sign non disclosure agreements?

2. Why are there 20+ privately run halal certification companies in Australia, all charging whatever amounts they want, when Indonesia only has 1 Government run halal certifier? If foods need to be halal certified, then let the Government run it and let the money go back into the whole Australian community.

3. For meat to be halal, the animal needs to be slaughtered a certain way, throat slit while animal is conscious by a Muslim. Yes, there are some abattoirs that use a reverse stun but, from what i have researched, there are at least 15 abattoirs in Australia that slaughter animals using no stun. It is barbaric. This video is very graphic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAQJ-FZo1cA

4. Australia is a predominantly Christian country, so why are we being forced to eat meat that has been prayed over to a "god" that we dont even recognise?

5. If halal certification is supposed to help Muslims recognise what they can and cant eat, then why do so many companies that pay for the certification stamp choose not to display it on their products?

6. Why are abattoirs paying a certification fee and then packing all the meat in one truck and delivering it to butchers and supermarkets who then put it all in the one fridge and display it all in the one display fridge. Once pork products are shelved, stored or transported with other meats, the other meats immediately become non halal anyway. So Aussie Muslims cant eat it anyway.

7. We are told halal certification monies goes towards to building of more mosques and Islamic schools. We know that there are quite a few mosques where the hatred of Australia is preached. As for Islamic schools, the same schools where a principal has said that girls are forbidden to run in races because it will cause them to lose their virginity. Do we need schools like that here?

8. In Canada halal certification money was found to be used to fund organisations linked to extremist organisations. I have no doubt that would be happening here as well.

9. Halal is a part of sharia law and we DO NOT want any part of Sharia law in Australia.

So, what would i like to see? Id like halal certification to be a Government run organisation. Id like every business who pays for halal certification to have to display the stamp on their products. I want all Australian abattoirs to stun before killing. That would be a nice start

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@gleee58 wrote:

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@azureline** wrote:

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@grandmoon wrote:

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@pct001wine wrote:

The fact that Cory Bernardi is behind this says it all.  A few kangaroos loose in the top paddock there.

"Senate Enquiry" lol    Yep, that'll fix it.  What's next ? A Royal Commission ?

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Lets hope that the inquiry highlights the amount of tax's the companies who have Halal certifcation pay and the number of people they employ here in Australia.  

And the effect of the cerfication on the export businesses.

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It won't make any difference to some, they will just either ignore the results or make accusations that the inquiry was biased. They don't really want to know the reality, they will then have to find another outlet for their vengeance and bigotry.

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Yes, it suits their agenda to cause people fear.  

They are having another wind power inquiry too.  All members except one, as far as I can tell, are  wind power haters.  

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From what I hear about the detrimental health effects on ppl living in close proximity to wind turbines, they're hated with good reason.

Constant headaches, sleeplessness, depression.

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Yeah, even when they are not operating.  It's funny how the people affected are those without turbines on their property adding to their incomes.

There has been many studies that do not confirm any illness, headaches, vibrating lips, or any other detrimental effects are caused by wind turbines.  

https://theconversation.com/study-finds-no-evidence-wind-turbines-make-you-sick-again-23621

https://theconversation.com/wind-turbines-dont-make-you-feel-sick-or-healthy-but-spin-can-20845

https://www.nhmrc.gov.au/_files_nhmrc/publications/attachments/new0048_public_statement_wind%20turbi...

https://theconversation.com/wind-turbine-studies-how-to-sort-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-36548

http://journals.lww.com/joem/Fulltext/2014/11000/Wind_Turbines_and_Health__A_Critical_Review_of_the....

[icyfroth]

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From what I hear about the detrimental health effects on ppl living in close proximity to wind turbines, they're hated with good reason.

Constant headaches, sleeplessness, depression.

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Yeah, even when they are not operating.  It's funny how the people affected are those without turbines on their property adding to their incomes.

There has been many studies that do not confirm any illness, headaches, vibrating lips, or any other detrimental effects are caused by wind turbines.  

https://theconversation.com/study-finds-no-evidence-wind-turbines-make-you-sick-again-23621

https://theconversation.com/wind-turbines-dont-make-you-feel-sick-or-healthy-but-spin-can-20845

https://www.nhmrc.gov.au/_files_nhmrc/publications/attachments/new0048_public_statement_wind%20turbi...

https://theconversation.com/wind-turbine-studies-how-to-sort-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-36548

http://journals.lww.com/joem/Fulltext/2014/11000/Wind_Turbines_and_Health__A_Critical_Review_of_the....

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What's the point of them if they're not operating?

There are also many studies that confirm wind turbines do cause adverse health conditions.

http://oto2.wustl.edu/cochlea/wind.html

http://www.windvigilance.com/about-adverse-health-effects/visual-health-effects-and-wind-turbines

http://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/green-science/wind-turbines-health1.htm

there's pages of it on google.

[daydream**believer]

Im realy confused what wind turbines have to do with halal certification?

[gleee58]

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@icyfroth wrote:

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From what I hear about the detrimental health effects on ppl living in close proximity to wind turbines, they're hated with good reason.

Constant headaches, sleeplessness, depression.

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Yeah, even when they are not operating.  It's funny how the people affected are those without turbines on their property adding to their incomes.

There has been many studies that do not confirm any illness, headaches, vibrating lips, or any other detrimental effects are caused by wind turbines.  

https://theconversation.com/study-finds-no-evidence-wind-turbines-make-you-sick-again-23621

https://theconversation.com/wind-turbines-dont-make-you-feel-sick-or-healthy-but-spin-can-20845

https://www.nhmrc.gov.au/_files_nhmrc/publications/attachments/new0048_public_statement_wind%20turbi...

https://theconversation.com/wind-turbine-studies-how-to-sort-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-36548

http://journals.lww.com/joem/Fulltext/2014/11000/Wind_Turbines_and_Health__A_Critical_Review_of_the....

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What's the point of them if they're not operating?

There are also many studies that confirm wind turbines do cause adverse health conditions.

http://oto2.wustl.edu/cochlea/wind.html

http://www.windvigilance.com/about-adverse-health-effects/visual-health-effects-and-wind-turbines

http://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/green-science/wind-turbines-health1.htm

there's pages of it on google.

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The point is that the people reported the symptoms were occuring when the turbines were not operating.

http://journals.lww.com/joem/Fulltext/2014/11000/Wind_Turbines_and_Health__A_Critical_Review_of_the....

In that review the authors assessed all the studies and reports they could find to review and found that there was no causal link between wind turbines and illness.   There have been no studies that prove there are any detrimental health effects caused by wind turbines.

[azureline**]

I am confused about why anyone thinks businesses are being forced to get.... and pay for, Halal Certification.........no one is forcing them to do it, it's a choice.

If a business chooses to vie for an export market, then they choose the Halal Cerification. It's business.

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@azureline** wrote:

I am confused about why anyone thinks businesses are being forced to get.... and pay for, Halal Certification.........no one is forcing them to do it, it's a choice.

If a business chooses to vie for an export market, then they choose the Halal Cerification. It's business.

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If anything it is the anti-halal bleeps who stalk, abuse, threaten businesses unless they drop the certification.

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@icyfroth wrote:

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From what I hear about the detrimental health effects on ppl living in close proximity to wind turbines, they're hated with good reason.

Constant headaches, sleeplessness, depression.

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Only in Australia.  In other countries, even in countries where the turbines are very close to dwellings none of these effects were reported. 

[gleee58]

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@daydream**believer wrote:

Im realy confused what wind turbines have to do with halal certification?

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Nothing to do with halal certification but there is a Senate Inquiry onto them also, which is why they were mentioned.

[gleee58]

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DEVELOPERS of the $38 million Blayney goat abattoir project have confirmed all meat produced by the factory will be halal, however, only “a very small percentage” of the workforce will need to be halal certified.