on 02-04-2014 05:46 PM
"ARE childless Australians community-spirited enough to pay more taxes to enable people with kids to be taxed less, to help support them as they raise the next generation of taxpayers to keep the country going?
It is a controversial proposal, floated today in the US by one childless columnist who was raised by two extremely hardworking middle class parents who battled—as many Australian families do—to cover family costs.
To foster a fairer society and give those who are producing kids a little less excruciating financial pressure, he suggests that child-free people earning more than the median household income (in Australia $57,400 in 2011) should be taxed more heavily, and families should pay around $5000 a year less."
Are you for or against?
on 03-04-2014 12:27 PM
You'd be allocated replacement children.
on 03-04-2014 12:32 PM
Just the thought of raising more children makes me feel tired so perhaps instead of everyone having to have a constant supply of three children - no more, no less - would need to be optional. Perhaps you could choose between having three children and paying a childless tax.
But, then again,being on DSP, I pay tax indirectly via goods and services etc, so how would that work?
on 03-04-2014 01:46 PM
@polksaladallie wrote:
@lyndal1838 wrote:
I bought my children up without any help from the government or other tax payers so why should I now have to contribute to anyone else's children.
I don't think so.
Please explain? Are you saying I am a liar and that I did receive government help to bring up my children?
on 03-04-2014 01:54 PM
Child endowment was introduced in the early 1940's.
on 03-04-2014 02:09 PM
No, child-free people should not be taxed to support families
Instead, child-free individuals should be rewarded in the form of LESS tax
Child-free individuals place far less burden on facilities
Child-free individuals do not take a cent from the education budget, for example
They spend less time on the road because they're not ferrying the kids they don't have all over the place
They place less burden on hospitals and Medicare
They use less fuel, heating, cooling, electricity, gas
They are the cause of FAR less rubbish therefore less of a burden on councils and landfill etc
Child free individuals should be REWARDED in the form of tax concessions, imo
on 03-04-2014 02:12 PM
I can't believe that we're on the 2nd page and no one hass suggested hitting Gina up to chip in.
RUNS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
on 03-04-2014 02:36 PM
@lyndal1838 wrote:
@polksaladallie wrote:
@lyndal1838 wrote:
I bought my children up without any help from the government or other tax payers so why should I now have to contribute to anyone else's children.
I don't think so.
Please explain? Are you saying I am a liar and that I did receive government help to bring up my children?
This subject has been done to death here. I am one of the oldest here, and well before my time and throughout my children's growth, every parent received some government help. In Australia. Whether it was as generous as that of today is irrelevant to my answer. No idea about other countries, if that is where you were.
on 03-04-2014 05:00 PM
I wonder what twit thought that up? Fancy paying for someone elses 'little dears'.
on 03-04-2014 05:15 PM
"The next generation of taxpayers?"
That would make much more sense if the next generation were to have anything like secure jobs to pay taxes from.
on 03-04-2014 05:36 PM
@polksaladallie wrote:
@lyndal1838 wrote:
@polksaladallie wrote:
@lyndal1838 wrote:
I bought my children up without any help from the government or other tax payers so why should I now have to contribute to anyone else's children.
I don't think so.
Please explain? Are you saying I am a liar and that I did receive government help to bring up my children?
This subject has been done to death here. I am one of the oldest here, and well before my time and throughout my children's growth, every parent received some government help. In Australia. Whether it was as generous as that of today is irrelevant to my answer. No idea about other countries, if that is where you were.
Yes, $2 a month was a great help in raising my children. It bordered on insulting rather than being a great help.
And parents did not receive child endowment for the first child until 1950 although children after the first were receiving it in 1941. Oh, and the poor old employer was being hit with a payroll tax to fund that little luxury too, so the government and the taxpayer were not paying for it.