22-09-2014 08:59 AM - edited 22-09-2014 09:00 AM
22-09-2014 02:37 PM - edited 22-09-2014 02:38 PM
on 22-09-2014 02:40 PM
I agree.
22-09-2014 02:48 PM - edited 22-09-2014 02:48 PM
Some people are for it being banned, some people are not. I won't be changing my mind and I don't expect anyone to change theirs either. If you like/want people to dress liket his in Australia, fair enough. I don't, but can't be bothered debating it back and forth.
on 22-09-2014 03:50 PM
Let’s not turn this into a Kafkaesque nightmare. The burqa should not be banned because it may be of use to some of us one day. I can find no law in Australia that says a man cannot wear the burqa.
Let’s assume that you have been summoned by the ATO for a desk audit and the ATO has as a witness a former work colleague of yours who knows you’ve been doing a bit of cash in hand work. You turn up wearing the burqa and the witness finds it impossible to identify you. You can claim that you wear the burqa because your brand of >insert name here< religion says men can wear the burqa. It might get you a seat on a crowded train or bus. You can laugh at motorcycle riders who have to take their helmets off before entering a bank. Ever seen a sign saying ‘please remove your burqa’ at any bank in Sydney?
We should not be slow learners.
on 22-09-2014 07:21 PM
I dont care what people wear as long as they are nice people and obey the law.
I am not frightened or offended by a Burqa.
I dont like seeing ugly bare muffin tops handing over jeans but if that's what people want, well it is a free country 🙂
23-09-2014 12:13 AM - edited 23-09-2014 12:17 AM
I'm a bit torn between supporting a person's right to dress as they please and condemning the burqua and other forms of female face-covering dress as being badges signifying the subordination of women to men. even if face-coverings are worn by women as part of their religious belief. (maybe even especially so).
I'm uneasy with a compulsory ban, but I'd sure like a lot more public debate as to the reasons why women wear them, and I'd like to see an investigation or social study into the sorts of pressures which families exert on their women to encourage them to choose to dress this way.
I'm all for freedom, and I'd hate to think that women were forced to adopt a form of dress which anonymises them due to pressures coming from either their family or their religious leaders.
on 23-09-2014 12:41 AM
"if they wish to wear the burqa or ha jib around there house no problem"
They don't wear them when at home with their family.
23-09-2014 12:50 AM - edited 23-09-2014 12:52 AM
We have language, but even that most sophisticated exemplar of its' species is diminished when the facial expressions of one's interlocutator cannot be observed.
Eee by gum . . . we'uns has evolved that way, innit?
My other feelings on this subject are that when faced with someone who chooses to cover their face in public and during their public interactions, I feel a lack of trust; as if somehow, I cannot be trusted to the full range and nuance of human communication with them; that I am something to be afraid of, may be?
But there is also the converse. A person who won't reveal their face during interaction may be trying to conceal something. (intentions, not lipstick ;))
on 23-09-2014 01:16 AM
Going about in public while wearing clothing which covers one's face seems to be an issue related to trust.
as Bob would say . . . discuss. 😉
on 23-09-2014 07:05 AM
Identity could be ascertained easily....... I think Burqas need rego plates.... and.......
If you're caught "driving" someone elses burqa then instant disqualification of said Burqa "esque" privileges....obviously..
I think it could catch on like those pretty plates they advertise on telly to keep your man out of your car