Should the Burqa be banned in Australia

[nero_bolt]

Should the Burqa and Niqab be banned in Australia?

[pollysd]

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@*julia*2010 wrote:

Are these women downtrodden as well?

are they allowed to wear civilian clothing in public?

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So is that the difference between the two? It was a serious question.....just wondering why one religious garment is acceptable if one chooses to wear it and another is not? As far as I know, many women that wear these burqas would feel uncomfortable without it. They wear it for religious as well as for cultural purposes. How is being told they are no longer able to wear one, that it is against the law....even if they wish to wear one, more liberating?  

[bushies.girl]

Islam is NOT a culture, it's a religion, nothing to do with skin colour at all ..... If people dont mind others wearing this kind of garb, thats fine 🙂 Personally I dont like it and that's not going to change ..... I just dont see the need for it .....

[Anonymous]

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@pollysd wrote:

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@*julia*2010 wrote:

Are these women downtrodden as well?

are they allowed to wear civilian clothing in public?

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So is that the difference between the two? It was a serious question.....just wondering why one religious garment is acceptable if one chooses to wear it and another is not? As far as I know, many women that wear these burqas would feel uncomfortable without it. They wear it for religious as well as for cultural purposes. How is being told they are no longer able to wear one, that it is against the law....even if they wish to wear one, more liberating?  

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i don't know.  i was also asking

a genuine question.  

but as has been pointed out already -

this discussion is about banning face coverings

so the difference would be - one covers the face

and the other does not.

[***super_nova***]

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@bushies.girl wrote:
Islam is NOT a culture,

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Islam is much more than a religion.  In Islamic countries everything is centered around the mosque.  The Iman is closely involved with family life of the people.  If children are naughty they are taken to the Iman to be told off.  The religious rules are used for everything, inheritance, divorce.  The religion dictates what you can eat, what you wear, so it is inseparable part of culture.  And while you are technically right that being against Islam is not racist.  But  being against all Muslims = people from middle east = Arabs is racist.  And people who do not like anybody from Asia, or middle east and Africa to come here are racist. 

[bushies.girl]

I have some friends who are Muslims and they don't follow that kinda thing all ...... Not liking the garb they wear has nothing to do with racist, people have a right to their own opinion but it would appear it need to be a "certain" opinion these days to avoid be "labeled" .... What ever happened to FREE thought 😞 personally I find those who need to "label" someone else's opinion/thoughts just as bad as as the person they are condemning 

[Anonymous]

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@***super_nova*** wrote:

I really do not comprehend why would anybody think that what Muslim women wear is oppressive, while western clothing is liberating?  We are dictated by fashion, and anybody who thinks that our clothing is liberating has never tried to get out off sportscar in a miniskirt.

Western girls are bombarded from early age by images of unattainable body shapes, and told that to fit in they need to conform to current fashions and be "sexy".  And when they do, they are called sluts.

I would prefer if woman in Australia did not feel the need to dress in burqa or niqab, but I do not support banning them; I just hope that over time they will be replaced by hijab.

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muslim women do like to wear fashionable western

clothing/accessories.  they love make up and

expensive perfumes just like other women.

they just need /choose to cover up in front of

males who are not relatives.  they don't need to

cover up in front of other  women.

[cherry*135]

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@bushies.girl wrote:

NOT in the cities near me  .... 

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So, there are more jobs in the bush where you live than in the cities near you?

That is what I was quite clearly referring to. Why people (any people, including migrants) move to a city not the 'bush'...for employment reasons.

[cherry*135]

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@bushies.girl wrote:

WHY do people keep posting pics of nuns in habits? Most nuns havent worn this type of garb for over 30 years lol  Don't really see how it covered their face either  lol  

DDB I hear what you are saying, unless one lives in a particular area, they they really have NO idea what's it like    ....

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Then, DDB, for example, has no idea what it's like (whatever that means) in any other area of Australia either, other than the one she lives in. That is: she doesn't speak for the whole of Australia.

[bluecat*dancing]

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@karliandjacko wrote:

I spent half my life in major multi cultural area and do know what it's like. In primary school the white aussies were the minority but we didn't take any notice of skin colour and learnt something about all cultures.

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Same here, with both primary and high school. I ended up feeling more comfortable in a middle eastern, meditteranean or germanic household than I did in an anglo-saxon one.

[***super_nova***]

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@*julia*2010 wrote:

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@***super_nova*** wrote:

I really do not comprehend why would anybody think that what Muslim women wear is oppressive, while western clothing is liberating?  We are dictated by fashion, and anybody who thinks that our clothing is liberating has never tried to get out off sportscar in a miniskirt.

Western girls are bombarded from early age by images of unattainable body shapes, and told that to fit in they need to conform to current fashions and be "sexy".  And when they do, they are called sluts.

I would prefer if woman in Australia did not feel the need to dress in burqa or niqab, but I do not support banning them; I just hope that over time they will be replaced by hijab.

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muslim women do like to wear fashionable western

clothing/accessories.  they love make up and

expensive perfumes just like other women.

they just need /choose to cover up in front of

males who are not relatives.  they don't need to

cover up in front of other  women.

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Yes, i know, that is what I said somewhere back in this thread  🙂

They dress in sexy clothing and underwear for their husbands.  But when in public they choose to cover up.  But many Muslim women do not follow that tradition, anyway, and I bet that within generation some Muslim kids will not know what burqa is.