Should the Burqa be banned in Australia

[nero_bolt]

Should the Burqa and Niqab be banned in Australia?

[Anonymous]

---

@am*3 wrote:

Yeah, they do.  some said they thought

the burka represented oppression.

others saw it as a barrier.

Which has nothing at all to do with feeling intimidation or feeling confronted when faced with being in the same space as a woman wearing a burqa.

---

confront means to face a situation that

makes you feel uncomfortable.  believing

that burka is a symbol of oppression can

make a person feel uncomfortable.

intimidating - while i personally would

not use that term i can understand someone

being frightened when in the presence of a person

whose whole body is covered.   that's where the

barrier comes in - not knowing who is behind the

cover.

(never considered maskaphobia until today)

[Anonymous]

---

@iapetus_rocks wrote:

---

@*julia*2010 wrote:

muslim women talk about the burka/niqab

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SWBXGhFBkU

---

"What choice does a woman have if she is told she will burn in hell if she doesn't wear it?" (quote from the video)

A pinnacle of piety. the closest you can get to god.  in which a Muslim woman disappears . . no longer here.

it's worth a watch, short though it is.

I can deal with womens' brains . . . I have worked with  women who have brains which I envy. But it's still difficult to converse with someone, paying attention only to the words which are generated by their brain, when I can't see their face.

Non verbal comms are just so important. How do you tell if someone is lying to you, for example? . . . look out for the inappropriate smile at the end of the spoken lie .... oops, can't do that if you can't see their mouth.

I see it as a respect issue (partly). I respect peoples' right to dress as they please (though sometimes I feel uncomfortable by their choice)

People who wear face-covering dress don't respect me because they don't trust me to see the full range of their facial expressions.

---

Reacting to a Perth court case in which a woman's right to wear a burqa while testifying is being questioned, the Prime Minister said she thought it was one of the "limited" instances when it should be removed.

"I worked as a lawyer for eight years, I ran a lot of cases, I interviewed a lot of clients, having done that it can be very difficult to tell whether or not people are telling you the truth," she said.

"The essence of giving witness evidence is the court is making a determination over whether or not someone is telling the truth, that is always hard to do, I think it would be impossible to do if you couldn't see someone's face." - Julia Gillard.

[iapetus_rocks]

"It's well known that good communication is the foundation of any successful relationship, be it personal or professional. It's important to recognize, though, that it's our nonverbal communication—our facial expressions, gestures, eye contact, posture, and tone of voice—that speak the loudest. The ability to understand and use nonverbal communication, or body language, is a powerful tool that can help you connect with others, express what you really mean,

Oftentimes, what comes out of our mouths and what we communicate through our body language are two totally different things. When faced with these mixed signals, the listener has to choose whether to believe your verbal or nonverbal message, and, in most cases, they're going to choose the nonverbal because it's a natural, unconscious language that broadcasts our true feelings and intentions in any given moment."

http://www.helpguide.org/articles/relationships/nonverbal-communication.htm

[ufo_investigations]

I'm sorry but I couldn't make friends with a person I can't see. I have to see the person to see their smile and indicators of interest. Do you know how important that is? Human beings relate by seeing the face, smiling and talking.

Covering your face is anti-social and it could be anyone under there. You wouldn't know who it is. This type of person is unapproachable.

Watch this video:

[the_great_she_elephant]

I can deal with womens' brains . . . I have worked with  women who have brains which I envy. But it's still difficult to converse with someone, paying attention only to the words which are generated by their brain, when I can't see their face.

Quite a few regular posters on here have excellent brains - I don't know what they look like or even what their real names are, but I don't have any problem conversing with them. 

[Anonymous]

---

@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

I can deal with womens' brains . . . I have worked with  women who have brains which I envy. But it's still difficult to converse with someone, paying attention only to the words which are generated by their brain, when I can't see their face.

Quite a few regular posters on here have excellent brains - I don't know what they look like or even what their real names are, but I don't have any problem conversing with them. 

---

emoticons do help

[j*oono]

Ufo, how would you cope if you were born without site or without hearing?

[ufo_investigations]

---

@j*oono wrote:

Ufo, how would you cope if you were born without site or without hearing?

---

It would be extremely difficult to meet people.

[the_great_she_elephant]

I suspect many more people than would be willing to admit it feel uncomfortable when face to face with blind people.

[j*oono]

Really?  I doubt that very much.  The world is getting along quite nicely with vision impaired and deaf people able to communicate without all of this.

I think Siggie is quite right.  Stop reading the news because it fills people with prejudice.