Should we teach both Evolution and Intelligent Design in science classes?

[the_bob_delusion]

Should we teach both and let the students decide for themselves?

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[the_great_she_elephant]

No, creationism is a religious concept not a scientific one and religious belief is not taught in Australian schols. If parents want their children to 'learn'  Creationism then they should either send them to a school that teaches it or teach it to them themselves.

[curmu-curmu]

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@the_bob_delusion wrote:

Should we teach both and let the students decide for themselves?

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Succinctly...no.

Hey Poddster...I think this belongs here!

[rabbitearbandicoot]

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

No, creationism is a religious concept not a scientific one and religious belief is not taught in Australian schols. If parents want their children to 'learn'  Creationism then they should either send them to a school that teaches it or teach it to them themselves.

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That's it, ram a THEORY down their throats and don't let them know there is another alternative. 

[rabbitearbandicoot]

Sorry, I keep mixing up EVOLUTION with ABIOGENESIS. But then, so do most people who say they believe in EVOLUTION.

And of course, Charles Darwin said that the Australian Aboriginals were NOT AS EVOLVED AS WHITES - so does everyone believe that?

[curmu-curmu]

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@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

No, creationism is a religious concept not a scientific one and religious belief is not taught in Australian schols. If parents want their children to 'learn'  Creationism then they should either send them to a school that teaches it or teach it to them themselves.

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That's it, ram a THEORY down their throats and don't let them know there is another alternative. 

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Okely dokely. Let's have one, just one, verified proof of creationism, supportecd by mainstraem scientists.

Then, and only then, might we consider it.

[curmu-curmu]

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@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:

Sorry, I keep mixing up EVOLUTION with ABIOGENESIS. But then, so do most people who say they believe in EVOLUTION.

And of course, Charles Darwin said that the Australian Aboriginals were NOT AS EVOLVED AS WHITES - so does everyone believe that?

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Understandable. Creationists typically get things ar$e-about!

[tasfleur]

I agree with Mrs. Elephant, but at the same time, creation and evolution are some kind of intelligent design anyway.

Perhaps the questions should be  metaphorical ..... is creation evolution, or is evolution creation, or one and the same?

In my opinion, everything is creative evolution, but the original source is merely a philosophy beyond that of the human mind.

That's most likely why primitive humans felt they had to invent religions.  It's all too big for the mind, so some levelled it down to the lowest denomination of their primal IQ's of the time.  They still do now I suppose .... 

It will always be unanswerable/unproveable in reality.

[rabbitearbandicoot]

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@curmu-curmu wrote:

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@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

No, creationism is a religious concept not a scientific one and religious belief is not taught in Australian schols. If parents want their children to 'learn'  Creationism then they should either send them to a school that teaches it or teach it to them themselves.

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That's it, ram a THEORY down their throats and don't let them know there is another alternative. 

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Okely dokely. Let's have one, just one, verified proof of creationism, supportecd by mainstraem scientists.

Then, and only then, might we consider it.

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Show me one, just one, verified proof that Creation is not true, then and only then will we consider it.

[curmu-curmu]

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@tasfleur wrote:

I agree with Mrs. Elephant, but at the same time, creation and evolution are some kind of intelligent design anyway.

Perhaps the questions should be  metaphorical ..... is creation evolution, or is evolution creation, or one and the same?

In my opinion, everything is creative evolution, but the original source is merely a philosophy beyond that of the human mind.

That's most likely why primitive humans felt they had to invent religions.  It's all too big for the mind, so some levelled it down to the lowest denomination of their primitive IQ's of the time.  They still do now I suppose .... 

It will always be unanswerable in reality.

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Tas - the evidence, (for the open-minded), for evolution is staggering, overwhelming.

The evidence for creationism is...in a book. No where else.

You tube is a great place to search for some answers - there's a lot of trash, but there's some pearls in amongst it...