on 16-02-2013 09:06 AM
SO much for the worlds greatest WORST treasurer
LABOR is at risk of posting a deficit of more than $10 billion this year as it seeks to fight an election on economic management, with new figures revealing a $5.2bn blow to revenue.
The revenue shortfall not only destroys the prospect of a budget surplus this year, it also casts doubt over future surpluses, amid caucus concerns over Wayne Swan's performance in selling the government's message.
Finance Minister Penny Wong warned last night of further "spending restraint" in response to the latest budget accounts, highlighting the government's challenge in slashing outlays or raising taxes to fund its big election commitments.
Senior economists cited the figures as a further sign of sluggish growth and forecast the deficit would come in between $10bn and $15bn.
A key industry group called on the major banks to make immediate cuts to interest rates to ease pressures on employers and consumers.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/surplus-turns-to-10bn-deficit/story-fn59niix-1226579244087
FAIL FAIL FAIL by Gillard and swan and Labor.
On 500+ occasions Labor promised a surplus http://youtu.be/YRuDZ3R5P3Y
Wayne Swan - How Embarrassing Was That? Lying About The Surplus In Your Pamphlet!
http://youtu.be/8vKYC4jKCDw
on 16-02-2013 09:09 AM
Economic vandals
The promise:
JOURNALIST: If you don’t make a, get the Budget back in to surplus in 2012-2013, this is a question to both of you, the cameras are on – will you resign?
PM: (laughs) The Budget is coming back to surplus, no ifs no buts it will happen.
Moderator David Speers: I think, Prime Minister, that Peter is seeking some sort of guarantee if you don’t get the budget back into surplus in three years, what happens?
Do you sack the Treasurer, do you take personal responsibility?
Julia Gillard: It’s happening, David. Failure is not an option.
Speers: If it doesn’t? If it doesn’t?
Gillard: Well, failure is not an option here and we won’t fail.
The delivery:
LABOR is at risk of posting a deficit of more than $10 billion this year as it seeks to fight an election on economic management, with new figures revealing a $5.2bn blow to revenue…
Senior economists cited the figures as a further sign of sluggish growth and forecast the deficit would come in between $10bn and $15bn.
The latest figures - showing a $22 billion deficit in the first six months of the financial year, albeit with stronger receipts still expected to come in the second half:
on 16-02-2013 09:35 AM
Nero - you can continue to be as myopic as your Liberal leader or you can try and see past the spin to the reality.
Here is a glimpse of reality for you in a simple comparison:
Last week the Prime Minister and Leader of the Opposition both gave speeches at the National Press Club on similar issues, but from quite different perspectives: one saw a complex world; the other, easy solutions.
It's rare for a politician to acknowledge complexity in an argument because it often involves admitting the worth of the other side's point of view and sometimes your own policy's failures.
Thus it was rather stunning last Wednesday to see the Prime Minister begin her speech
with, as she put it, "a warts-and-all look at who we are today and the opportunities and risks which confront us".
She noted for example that travel times for workers was increasing "by as much as an hour and a half in the past decade" and that "as many as 1 in 6 workers spend more than an hour every day getting to and from their job".
She also noted that the price of electricity and gas has "increased by 120 per cent in the last decade and 26 per cent in the last two years".
Given the ALP has been in power for half of the past decade and all of the past two years, this is a pretty stunning way to begin a speech in an election year.
Gillard then acknowledged the two competing realities that "despite low inflation and low interest rates, we still feel these pressures on living standards".
Tony Abbott's speech last Thursday also began by addressing the cost of living, but he saw no low inflation, nor any complexity. He merely noted that, "It's clear to us what you, our fellow Australians, want: you want less pressure on your cost of living." His solution was simple: "The carbon tax will be gone - so power prices will fall."
The reality of course is that electricity accounts for on average 2% of households annual income it's just that the bill comes in a big whack so people notice it.
It is an axiom of politics that you can never tell voters that they've never had it so good. But the cost of living figures released last week by the ABS showed that the increase in annual cost of living is currently running significantly below average.
For employee households, cost of living growth is lower than it has been for over 10 years (outside the GFC).
For all household types except pensioners, the growth in cost of living in the past year has actually been less than the inflation rate, with pensioners' cost of living increasing by 2.3 per cent compared to 2.2 per cent for the CPI.
The Prime Minister also discussed superannuation returns and wealth, and noted that there were some periods during the 2000s where household savings were actually negative as people massively invested in property and shares and borrowed on the equity of their homes to do so. She said of that period of 8 to 10 per cent housing price growth:
It was a phase that could not last - but unsurprisingly, many Australians miss those days when they could spend all of their income, see wealth increase through ever-rising house prices, and through easy credit, borrow against the house again to spend more.
In short, the party's over, folks.
John Howard had no real issues with the housing bubble, saying in 2003 that in fact he welcomed it as a good thing. But the binge of cheap money and booming consumption has ended - and the GFC was the mother of all hangovers. In the five years prior to the GFC, the stock market grew at around 15 per cent each year. In the five years since, it has struggled to get back to even.
Is it any wonder company tax revenue has fallen, and people are saving more and investing in shares less?
When Tony Abbott turned to this sector of the economy he maintained a GFC-myopia, saying, "People are saving at levels not seen in 20 years because no one trusts this government to save and few believe its claims that the economy is in good shape."
You would hope with such a large lead in the polls that Mr Abbott might feel secure enough to acknowledge that historically the economy is actually in good shape. He might not think it his job to do so, but surely one can acknowledge reality and still argue your policies are best to serve the nation in the future?
Both leaders also referred to the terms of trade.
Once again it was the Prime Minister who acknowledged the complexity of the issue and Tony Abbott who delivered the spin.
The Prime Minister noted that although our terms of trade had fallen the value of our currency had not - in fact it has risen. "Consequently," she said, "we have to have a plan which can withstand the possibility of a persistently strong dollar into the future - not simply rely on the economic assumption that our dollar will fall."
Whenever discussing the terms of trade, you also need to be mindful of the value of our currency. A comparison of the price of commodities in US and Australian dollar terms shows that while the price of commodities in US dollars is now above where it was prior to the GFC, in Australian dollars, the prices are 30 per cent below that peak.
It's one of the chief reasons why despite strong terms of trade, we are not seeing a boom in company tax like in 2003-07.
The Opposition Leader however was having none of that, instead suggesting that in 2004-5, with unemployment at about five per cent, the Howard government delivered a surplus of one and half per cent of GDP despite terms of trade almost 40 per cent lower - yes, lower - than last year when the Gillard government delivered a deficit - a deficit - of three per cent of GDP.
But "terms of trade" is not taxation revenue, and it would have again been nice for Mr Abbott to acknowledge that in 2004-05 the Howard government's revenue was 25.6 per cent of GDP. Indeed, had the current government had such revenue at its disposal it would have run surpluses every year except 2009-10.
Moreover, the expected Government outlay for 2012-13 is less than all but two of the years of the Howard government. The reason a surplus is unlikely to occur this financial year is not because of a blowout in spending, but because revenue again will remain at historic lows - unlikely to reach 24 per cent of GDP. The only year the Howard Government ever collected less than that amount was in 1997-98.
To adjust to this reality, the Prime Minister foreshadowed cuts in the budget that would lead to "substantial new structural savings". This government has made a habit of talking big on cutting hard in the budget and generally falling short, so it remains to see what will occur - especially within the context of an election year.
On this aspect Tony Abbott did achieve a type of complexity - that of logic - when he announced the Liberal Party would cut the school kids bonus, which is only for parents receiving Family Tax Benefit A, while at the same time attacking the ALP for suggesting cuts to middle-class welfare, were "attacks on the middle class.... because the family tax benefit and the private health insurance rebate are tax justice for families, not handouts."
Both speeches of course were lost in the burble of politics - the Prime Mister smothered her own speech by using it to announce the election date; Tony Abbott's speech was old news before he finished as word broke of Craig Thomson's arrest. Both they each gave a strong indication of the narratives the leaders will attempt to tell from here till September 14.
Prior to the Prime Minister's speech the Opposition's education spokesman Christopher Pyne declared "Rhetoric [and] platitudes: people are sick of them." On the basis of these two speeches, one leader clearly is not sick of them just yet.
http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/4502492.html
on 16-02-2013 09:37 AM
Oh and by the way, I would not normally C&P something so long and boring (to those not interested in politics) but when in Rome...;-)
on 16-02-2013 09:50 AM
why is the figure not higher? what happened to 100's of zillions you usually quote from the same economic illiterates who simply make figures up ? its far too late to attempt any appearance of credibility i guess ..
on 16-02-2013 09:57 AM
Martini,
Your scroller does NOT address the failures of this govt. & the economy of the day in any way.
If you want to C & P from the Drum with the left groupthink of the ABC then that is your choice.
Your C & P speech excerpt from Gillard that did, in no way, tell the truth of how & just how badly they have failed & you would not expect her to do so.
This is an election year & we want policies & the TRUTH from Labor. Tony Abbott must lay out his policies (which he has done with some) & be judged on them at the next election.
Labor cannot lay out any credible policies, they have failed on the 3 big things she promised to do at the last election & whilst she was failing on those the country goes deeper & deeper into the debt mire which she & Swan will not admit to let alone refer to.
A quick read around & look at what the commentators are saying is that Gillard & Swan have failed, they will lose the next election & Swan could very well lose his seat.
Those are the realities, it is not McTernan spinning from Gillard, it is what is being said by even the despondent & desperate Labor back benches.
Look closely at the coming weeks, they may decide to get rid of them both, but it will not save them, but it may save the furniture.
on 16-02-2013 10:15 AM
If you want to C & P from the Drum with the left groupthink of the ABC then that is your choice.
Well they do say a change is as good as a holiday and I thought I would give CS readers a holiday by C&Ping some left wing opinion for a change instead of the constant barrage of right wing gobbledeegook.
This is an election year & we want policies & the TRUTH from Labor.
Ahh! The TRUTH (in capital letters of course). The core of the Liberal criticism of the government hey? 'We' only ever demand 'THE TRUTH' form Labor don't we?
But Abbott is allowed to ignore, distort, confuse, smirk at, hide and fumble with the 'THE TRUTH' isn't he?
And that my friend is the point of my C&P. 😉
Tony Abbott must lay out his policies (which he has done with some) & be judged on them at the next election.
Policies? POLICIES? Did I blink and see a policy fly by? :^O
A quick read around & look at what the commentators are saying is that Gillard & Swan have failed,
And therein lies your problem - a "quick read" by "commentators"? Try doing a 'long' read by people that matter and you may very well see 'THE TRUTH' a little more clearly. 🙂
on 16-02-2013 10:19 AM
peter reith writes for the drum for goodness sake. the ABC is as conservative as anyone . its a dead loss .
on 16-02-2013 10:30 AM
If I was you Lightning dance, I wouldn't be on this board talking about 'THE TRUTH' after you posted 'fake hoax emails'.
on 16-02-2013 10:32 AM
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