on โ26-12-2014 09:06 AM
Can an athiest please tell me why they get upset when someone takes hostages and kills them or when someone like Islamic State beheads children?
I do not understand you .On the one hand you tell me you believe in evolution and survival of the fittest and on the other you get upset when the species does exactly what darwin says it will do.DISCUSS as bob would say.
on โ26-12-2014 01:27 PM
on โ26-12-2014 04:26 PM
@lionofjudah60 wrote:Can an athiest please tell me why they get upset when someone takes hostages and kills them or when someone like Islamic State beheads children?
I do not understand you .On the one hand you tell me you believe in evolution and survival of the fittest and on the other you get upset when the species does exactly what darwin says it will do.DISCUSS as bob would say.
Evolution is not about survival of the fittest via murder but natural selection via adaptation to the enviroment.
Can you answer this question that no one else seems to be able to?
God created Adam and Eve who had two sons,Cain and Abel.
Cain killed Able and then got married.
So who did he marry?
on โ26-12-2014 05:00 PM
@aps1080 wrote:
Not bad.
I would and am perfectly capable of matching it with the most brutal of them all.
In this current society, no need but if it turns into something where as someone above put, the govts laws, rules and mores hinder mine,
then all bets are off so to speak.
I won't be lying down letting them behead me.
Neither would I but that is not the point.The point is evolutionists should not complain or cry when they see brutality.They should simply see it as evolution in progress.
on โ26-12-2014 05:02 PM
@**bob_on_the_go** wrote:
@lionofjudah60 wrote:Can an athiest please tell me why they get upset when someone takes hostages and kills them or when someone like Islamic State beheads children?
I do not understand you .On the one hand you tell me you believe in evolution and survival of the fittest and on the other you get upset when the species does exactly what darwin says it will do.DISCUSS as bob would say.
More correctly, evolution is the survival of the most adaptable. If everyone ended up killing each other, the specie will not survive. We have a complex brain that allows us to think.
Explain to me on your world-view. If God asked you to kill everyone, would you do it? If God killed everyone, is God moral?
YHWH would not ask me to kill everybody.He has no need to kill everybody and the Scriptures are clear that He wont do that.He will kill billions but not everyone.He is moral in whatever He does.Do you blame the potter if he smashes the pot he made?
on โ26-12-2014 05:03 PM
@**bob_on_the_go** wrote:
@the_hawk* wrote:
@lionofjudah60 wrote:
@the_hawk* wrote:No one needs to be religious to have feelings, compassion or respect for others.
More crimes and hatred has come for religion than any other source through out history and always starts when one wants to take control over others because they believe they are the only ones that are right.
Then you are against darwinian evolution.That says the fittest survive.I want to know how you can believe in evolution and care about the weak.Simple question.
the only part of darwinian evolution I would like to see is the removal of warning labels to allow natural selection to weed out the stupid people that dont think.
LOL
Don't think for themselves you mean.
You do not think for yourself.You believe what you are told.Thinking for yourselves involves study and information.You do not do that.
โ26-12-2014 05:06 PM - edited โ26-12-2014 05:10 PM
@chuk_77 wrote:
@lionofjudah60 wrote:
@myoclon1cjerk wrote:Get your facts right first.The term 'survival of the fittest' was first coined by philosopher and economist Henry Spencer.
so now evolution is wrong in your view if it has ideas which it did not first enunciate? you get your facts right.evolution teaches survival of the fittest.so stop crying when someone strong kills someone weak.accept it as part of evolution.
strapping on a bomb, using a gun, holding others hostage is NOT showing strength at all. It shows weakness, narrow mindedness sometimes mentally ill but never strength.
Also, survival of the fittest is about just that surviving in the wild, just to survive, to live to hunt food. Nothing at all to do with guns and bombs and torture and evil hearts
Out of curiosity why did you only use IS as an example? Other nutters also do this kind of thing just because they are nutters.
Survival of the fitteset has nothing to do with it and your grasping at straws to try and shock people is laughable
So now I have to use examples that make you happy.I can use example I like and I dont need your permission to do it.You can swap islamic state for boko haram if iyt makes you happy.And I also used IRA and serial killers as an example so you are WRONG again.You must get used to being wrong by now as you are wrong most of the time.And now you are deciding what survival of the fittest means.So you want evolution not to evolve.It has to do only with the WILD in your view and nothing else.That is a nonsense position.
The point is clear.True Believers in God can rightly complain when people kill others,whether it be in God's name or not.Evolutionists have no right to complain.The theory of evolution predicts and justifies such behavior.
on โ26-12-2014 05:07 PM
@**bob_on_the_go** wrote:
@lionofjudah60 wrote:Can an athiest please tell me why they get upset when someone takes hostages and kills them or when someone like Islamic State beheads children?
I do not understand you .On the one hand you tell me you believe in evolution and survival of the fittest and on the other you get upset when the species does exactly what darwin says it will do.DISCUSS as bob would say.
Just for the record, there's no rule saying that Atheists have to accept evolution. However saying that whether anyone accepts it or not, it's still a fact. Oh and there's no rule either that Atheists have to get upset when someone takes hostages etc etc......
There're masochist out there Atheists or not.
It is not a fact at all.Show some evidence of it.How about those fossil records showing a change in kind.How about explaining how something survived before it evolved the necessary organs for life.How about explaining how random events fell into place so well.Calling evolution a fact simply shows your ignorance.
on โ26-12-2014 05:09 PM
@go-tazz wrote:
@lionofjudah60 wrote:Can an athiest please tell me why they get upset when someone takes hostages and kills them or when someone like Islamic State beheads children?
I do not understand you .On the one hand you tell me you believe in evolution and survival of the fittest and on the other you get upset when the species does exactly what darwin says it will do.DISCUSS as bob would say.
Evolution is not about survival of the fittest via murder but natural selection via adaptation to the enviroment.
Can you answer this question that no one else seems to be able to?
God created Adam and Eve who had two sons,Cain and Abel.
Cain killed Able and then got married.
So who did he marry?
No one can answer it?That is a question asked by fools on a regular basis.Go and study the Bible because the answer is there.Fools simply read about Cain and Abel and then think they know the lot.The Bible does not say they had only 2 children and you show your ignorance by suggesting it does.
on โ26-12-2014 05:21 PM
on โ26-12-2014 05:24 PM
@myoclon1cjerk wrote:
Then cut and paste the part that says they had more than 2 children please.And some insight into how Adam and Eve brought Caucasians ,dark skinned people and asiatics into existence.
Could they have evolved to meet the environment ??? ๐ ๐