Sydney Terrorists Caught!!

[curmu-curmu]

Police have arrested two suspected ISIS terrorists who were alleged to have wanted to behead a member of the public.

http://www.skynews.com.au/news/top-stories/2015/02/11/two-arrested-in-sydney-on-beheading-plot.html

The way I see it, is that althougfh they profess to have links to ISIS, are they just wannabe terrorists claiming to be part of ISIS?

And how many other terrorist attacks around the world, claiming to be on behalf of ISIS, are actually wannabes - in a desperate attempt for notoriety?

When it all boils down, the acts themselves are truly disgusting, and cannot be condoned - but are those who commit them truly ISIS?

What are your thoughts?

[idlewhile]

Islamist or muslim terrorists is the correct term. 

While there are many good muslims in this country there is also many who hate us and want to do us harm, many who support ISIL and all they stand for.

Trying to call it something that it's  not is stupid PC writ large,  should not be part of this whole terrorist war and it is a war don't forget that. They are Muslim islamist terrorists and the correct term should used.

[the_great_she_elephant]

There is also of course one other facet of their make-up; one that they share with 99% of ALL terrorists of ALL religious or political persuasions; one that is almost certainly the overriding factor in  their radicalisation and prediliction for violence. If we want to eradicate terrorism, maybe that is where we should be starting.

[idlewhile]

Making excuses for Islamist terrorists seems pretty shameful for an Australian to participate in.

[curmu-curmu]

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@idlewhile wrote:

Making excuses for Islamist terrorists seems pretty shameful for an Australian to participate in.

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I'm sorry your comprehension's not that good - I NEVER made an excuse - (except maybe in your eyes) for their disgusting attempted behavior.

What I was implying, was that although they clearly have ISIS/ISIL mentalities, are they actually members of the sect, or are they Australian born and bred wannabes? Politically or religiously deluded by their peers, the media and the general population to believe that they needed to commit such an atrocity?

Whatever their reason, it does NOT excuse their intentions, and personally - I wouldn't squirm if they faced a firing squad. I'd even offer to pull a trigger!

Police discovered a 'hunting knife' on the premises. Not your 'weapon of choice' for a terrorist bent on beheading - they could have used a kitchen carving knife with equal results!

No, more and more, I feel that they may well be easily-influenced young men - so caught up in their foul religion, that they actually beleived that they too, could be  'warriors for god'.

As I stated in an earlier post - I neither condone or excuse them for their actions or intentions, but it just seems a little too banal to believe that they are part of the sect.  More like a couple of testosterone-fuelled young men - desperate to feel a part of their sociopathic society.

In essence - a way to bignote themselves to their peers.

[kopenhagen5]

I think it is simply brilliant the way authorities have managed to intercept many potential threats.

And we only know a small percentage of the good work that is done.

Thanks to all organisations keeping it safe for us. 

[the_great_she_elephant]

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@idlewhile wrote:

Making excuses for Islamist terrorists seems pretty shameful for an Australian to participate in.

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I wasn't making excuses. I pointed out that being male appeared to be the most common factor in predisposing anyone to terrorist behaviour.  I would only have been making excuses had I I suggested it was a mitigating factor. 

[daydream**believer]

Whats scary is that these guys wernt on the "radar".

So were they thought to be moderate Muslims?

How many other moderate muslims are actually not so moderate?

[idlewhile]

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@curmu-curmu wrote:

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@idlewhile wrote:

Making excuses for Islamist terrorists seems pretty shameful for an Australian to participate in.

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I'm sorry your comprehension's not that good - I NEVER made an excuse - (except maybe in your eyes) for their disgusting attempted behavior.

What I was implying, was that although they clearly have ISIS/ISIL mentalities, are they actually members of the sect, or are they Australian born and bred wannabes? Politically or religiously deluded by their peers, the media and the general population to believe that they needed to commit such an atrocity?

Whatever their reason, it does NOT excuse their intentions, and personally - I wouldn't squirm if they faced a firing squad. I'd even offer to pull a trigger!

Police discovered a 'hunting knife' on the premises. Not your 'weapon of choice' for a terrorist bent on beheading - they could have used a kitchen carving knife with equal results!

No, more and more, I feel that they may well be easily-influenced young men - so caught up in their foul religion, that they actually beleived that they too, could be  'warriors for god'.

As I stated in an earlier post - I neither condone or excuse them for their actions or intentions, but it just seems a little too banal to believe that they are part of the sect.  More like a couple of testosterone-fuelled young men - desperate to feel a part of their sociopathic society.

In essence - a way to bignote themselves to their peers.

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My comment wasn't directed to you, no offense intended, it was a repy to another member.

[idlewhile]

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

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@idlewhile wrote:

Making excuses for Islamist terrorists seems pretty shameful for an Australian to participate in.

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I wasn't making excuses. I pointed out that being male appeared to be the most common factor in predisposing anyone to terrorist behaviour.  I would only have been making excuses had I I suggested it was a mitigating factor. 

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what 

[lloydslights]

Ms Byrne states: They weren't on our radar.  But nobody is on the radar until they are reported as being or acting suspiciously. Are they?

So who reported suspicions for the Police to act so quickly?  The seller of the knife?  

Knife purchase with credit card + search of credit card details + nationality + phone calls of credit card holder + .......???????

DEB