The Irani Way...

[*crikey*mate*]

Mother saves life of son's killer in Iran

Murder and several other crimes are punishable by death in Iran.

But under the country's interpretation of Islamic laws in force since the 1979 revolution, a victim's family has the right to spare a convict's life in return for financial payment.

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I agree with the Death Penalty for some crimes.

I'm not sure that I like the idea of a victim's family being able to grant immunity, and definitely not for money.

I think that provides an opportunity for extortion, blackmail and corruption and potentially pardons some of society's most detestable beings whilst others may not be able to raise the funds to pay off the hangman.

[2106greencat]

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@lakeland27 wrote:

i think the issue of money the least significant aspect of the story.

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Seriously - it is the MOST significant LL

Why should a monetary gain be offered at all??

Like I said, you can either forgive or not, no amount of money should make the decision for you, forgiveness should come from within, not from your baack pocket, ridiculous law, totally ridiculous.

Imagine if we had that in western culture - the rich could pretty much do whatever they wanted, and buy forgiveness (protection from punishment).

Where would it end ?

[lakeland27]

well the guardian story makes no mention of money. i'm not saying money wasn't involved as we don't know, i'm saying the guardian journalist didn't feel the need to zero in on the alleged financial aspect of the story and nor do i.

[2106greencat]

understood....

but...but...it was the financial side of the story that makes it so wrong., without that I would have nothing to rabbit on about.

I really need to click on the link don't I ?

BBS

[boris1gary]

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@diamond-halo wrote:

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@diamond-halo wrote:

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I agree with the Death Penalty for some crimes.

I'm not sure that I like the idea of a victim's family being able to grant immunity, and definitely not for money.

I think that provides an opportunity for extortion, blackmail and corruption and potentially pardons some of society's most detestable beings whilst others may not be able to raise the funds to pay off the hangman.

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THIS was my comment and point for the thread, what I wrote in the OP.

The inequalities of a legal system.

There is no need to make it about anything else or to inject nefarious intentions and inferences.

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There is a similar kind of financial thing in Japan, I don't know if it works if the death penalty is on the table, it's called Jidan. I don't know a whole lot about it .....it's applicable for both penal and civil cases.I do remember seeing something about it on a doco about a murdered British girl in Japan.

Jidan is informal in nature but formal in the sense that depending on the circumstances it brings about a suspension of an indictment or lenient sentencing to the defendant.

[lakeland27]

yes and we have compensation. we had criminal compensation until most state govts scrapped it. it was covered by a victims of crime levy imposed on convicted offenders .  we arent so different.

[icyfroth]

I think it's like...in their country the parents depend on their eldest son or next in line to support them in old age.

If the son is taken out (by murder eg) the perpetrator becomes responsible for the futher upkeep of the family.

[*crikey*mate*]

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@lakeland27 wrote:

well the guardian story makes no mention of money. i'm not saying money wasn't involved as we don't know, i'm saying the guardian journalist didn't feel the need to zero in on the alleged financial aspect of the story and nor do i.

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ok, forget about the actual stiory for a sec, and focus more on the actual law that makes provisions for it.

This wasn't meant to be political or representative of a newspaper or whatever.

This particular paper highlighted an aspect of Sharia Law that i found surprising as well as unjust.

Say we both had kids who committed the same crime.

Now say one of us could rasise/generate enough money to seek immunity for their child, but the other couldn't.

How is that a just or equitable law?

[lakeland27]

 somewhere that a son has more value than mere brag-book pictures icy ? if a son is the difference between living a good life or one of poverty maybe it makes sense..

[2106greencat]

Now that I can get on board with, but if they are in jail how can they support anyone ?

or does this deal equate the release of the killer - in which case, I will support my own to the best of my ability thank you.

Not having a go at you Ice, just wondering at the 'ramifications' of this

[icyfroth]

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@lakeland27 wrote:

 somewhere that a son has more value than mere brag-book pictures icy ? if a son is the difference between living a good life or one of poverty maybe it makes sense..

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you got it Lakes...