Tony Abbott's Support Page

[icyfroth]

A reminder of the debt that Australia has, while Labor can bury their heads and deny it exists the fact remains we have a huge problem with debt and sooner than later the chips will fall, no business, no state and no country can keep operating in the red, eventually those we own the money to will own us. Who will own us?
The state of Qld has debt of $80 billion dollars, Labor are saying they don’t think it’s that bad, Bill Shorten on Australia’s debt, there is no debt crisis, there is a crisis and we are in this situation because of Labor, no one else and the bottom line is Labor can’t fix this problem, their speciality is creating debt not fixing debt.

[vicr3000]

I need

How far out of town from Wilcannia ?

Wilcannia isn't remote.

[vicr3000]

I need

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And why take the funding away from remote indigenous communities? I am sure there are thousands of regional 'towns' draining the public purse. Many of them with less inhabitants than your average indigenous community. Let's close these towns down instead shall we? Imagine the money we would save on roads, public transport, garbage colection, water and electricity infrastructure.

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The difference is, if it were a White regional town, Whites living there would have to pay for it all.

If it is an Aboriginal "town", the Gov't pays for it.

I think you have visted some of the less fortunate Remote communities.

And as for "sending a doctor out once in a while", in NT they DRIVE or FLY them to Darwin at Gov't expense

IF the local clinic/doctor can't handle it. And if not Darwin, fly them to Adelaide. My friend did that.

Education - Remote learning, then they fly the people down to Geelong twice a year for 2 weeks,

put them up in accomodation, feed them, everything laid on.

(I spoke to one of the students up in NT who told me that was what they did, Gov't paid for it.)

About the only thing Aboriginals seem to pay for is Food, drink, smokes and car and petrol if they have one.

The rest is provided by the Gov't, to the tune of $100,000 a year PER PERSON.

Oh, and the money they spend on "Food, drink, smokes and car and petrol" is welfare from the Gov't.

If I want to live in the middle of woop woop, then I pay the price. if Aboriginals want to live there,

the Gov't provides no end of help and money for things.

If it's available to them, it should be available to all of us.

[gleee58]

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@icyfroth wrote:

If the aborigines like to live in their remote communities, fine, but I don't know how they also expect to have the same services as ppl living in urban or even rural areas.

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They don't.

[gleee58]

"Always was, always will be aboriginal Lands"

"White Australia has a black history"

If it's ok to give fuel rebates to the remote wealthy it's perfectly acceptable to subsidise the remote Aboriginal communities.  

[cherry*135]

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@vicr3000 wrote:

Icy

The funniest thing is the fact that everyone called his comments racist,
kicked up such a storm that the real message was lost in the outrage.

So as usual, we can't speak about Aboriginal Issues without being called racist.

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I am not sure that is accurate.

How can 'we' speak about Aboriginal issues if 'we' are not Aboriginal?  Have we lived their lives, experienced their experiences?

[vicr3000]

Wrong, very wrong.


In that case, don't bother speaking to men about women issues such as sexism, glass ceiling etc etc.

[icyfroth]

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@am*3 wrote:

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@vicr3000 wrote:

Icy

The funniest thing is the fact that everyone called his comments racist,
kicked up such a storm that the real message was lost in the outrage.

So as usual, we can't speak about Aboriginal Issues without being called racist.

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I am not sure that is accurate.

How can 'we' speak about Aboriginal issues if 'we' are not Aboriginal?  Have we lived their lives, experienced their experiences?

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We don't have to experience their lives in order to discuss the support they need. To discuss aboriginal issues doesn't mean we're racist.  Mr Abbott is once again being called a racist because he is withdrawing services to remote settlements which are too hard to access.

[gleee58]

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@am*3 wrote:

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@vicr3000 wrote:

Icy

The funniest thing is the fact that everyone called his comments racist,
kicked up such a storm that the real message was lost in the outrage.

So as usual, we can't speak about Aboriginal Issues without being called racist.

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I am not sure that is accurate.

How can 'we' speak about Aboriginal issues if 'we' are not Aboriginal?  Have we lived their lives, experienced their experiences?

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We can speak about them but with how much authority is another matter.

It's no use anyone speaking about the issue without listening to what the communities want and need.  We can all learn from these people of the first nations. We can learn not to make the same mistakes over and over. We can learn about the history and connections with the lands, We can learn how and why some things were done the way they were.    

Why should we fight to preserve old white history while at the same time we argue that black history is not worth keeping and learning from?

[vicr3000]

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Why should we fight to preserve old white history while at the same time we argue that black history is not worth keeping and learning from?"

I love the black history. Spend hours reading it.

Must admit one interesting part is when white / black history cross, from the late 1800's to the 1940's.

That is interesting.

 Who argues it's not worth keeping and learning from ?

[i-need-a-martini]

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@watta*drama*queen wrote:

 'Many of them with less inhabitants than your average indigenous community.'

What do you class as the 'average indigenous community' in terms of size, 'inhabitant' numbers and location ?

Your comparison of what, in your opinion; qualifies for your descriptive of 'remote' and 'regional' would also be appreciated

Thank you

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I am guess most have tight groups of around 100 with family/tribe settlements on the fringes. The last outback settlement I visited probably had 30 people but I understand the community is quite large but widely spread out. 2 years ago I went to Utupia and they had about 1500 people.

I'm not sure why I need to explain regional as I think that is fairly selfexplanatory. As far as "remote" goes, that would be relative to distances. In NSW 2 hours away from a town centre I would class as remote. In WA 4 hours out of a town centre is remote.