on 29-08-2013 08:54 AM
Tony Abbott drove Rudd to the brink then the Ruddster happily skipped over the edge. The weird moment when Rudd demanded a handshake & a promise from Abbott to "vote Labor"
Rudd needed a breakthrough but he really didn't have anything to use for a battering ram against Abbott.
Whether anybody wants to nit pick about who won the debate I say "who cares" but all the pundits except for the Biongiorno's of the media gave it to Abbott.
The alarming moment when he made foreign investment cuts, was policy on the moment & a frightening thought bubble & when he lied to the audience about the Garden Island closure he sealed his own fate.
Ch 7 gave it to Abbott 67% to Rudd 28% but hey! who's counting.
read on from Paul Kelly:
IT was a western Sydney audience and the questions better suited Tony Abbott. He was confident, on message, punchy, tighter and had the best of the third debate against Kevin Rudd.
The Prime Minister is faltering under pressure. After his highly dubious naval re-location policy on Tuesday, last night he produced an on-the-run populist switch in foreign investment policy to be tougher than the Coalition, warning against "open slather" in land.
This creates a dangerous moment in the election and for foreign investment policy.
Rudd's problem is that he cannot win on Labor's record and he cannot escape that record. There is now a palpable sense of desperation in Rudd's approach.
Last night the Opposition Leader delivered his best performance of the three debates. This is despite Rudd's ongoing success in attacking his unjustified and extravagant paid parental leave scheme.
Abbott was more comfortable than Rudd with the western Sydney agenda. Above all, he got two things right: he kept selling his policies as an economic growth/job creation manifesto and he hammered the idea of Rudd over-promising and under-delivering.
Much of the questioning centred on jobs, the economy, trust and small business
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Abbott was effective in depicting Rudd as a scare merchant; he mocked the Prime Minister's emphasis on long-range policy that failed to deliver upfront; he sold himself in contrast to Rudd as a future prime minister who would "under promise and over deliver"; and he dismissed the Labor years, saying "the circus has got to stop".
There may be a different atmospheric between the impression in the room and the impression watching on television.
Abbott, aware he was the front-runner, avoided any major blunder.
Rudd, aware that he had to strike a lethal blow, pushed too hard and was unconvincing outside the PPL scheme where an audience member asked Abbott the killer question about millionaires.
The emphasis on "spending other people's money" was ideal for Abbott.
When Rudd said he wouldn't apologise for having "vision", Abbott seized the opportunity: he invoked a "nightmare" and referred to Labor's record of failures from Fuel Watch, Grocery Choice, and trade training centres.
On foreign investment the Prime Minister is playing for the Bob Katter vote.
Rudd went out of his way to distance himself from Abbott's "free market" outlook. He wanted a "more cautious" policy on foreign investment in land than the Coalition.
Suddenly, Abbott looked Mr Responsible on foreign investment. Rudd wants those Katter preferences. Watch for a backlash against Abbott from the populist right. This is now risky and unpredictable.
This was the best debate of the three. The questions were different and more geared to western Sydney economic priorities.
Abbott spoke less than Rudd and stayed more on message. He was calm, measured and controlled.
The enduring impression was Rudd as challenger to Abbott as front-runner.
Labor has bet the house for nearly four years that Abbott would commit political suicide. Unsurprisingly, he didn't comply, yet again.
on 29-08-2013 04:50 PM
LL: "what i'm curious about is why a man would flee belgium , and why this experience would cause him to descriminate against genuine refugees.
Come on LL "flee belgium"?
"Following two visits to Perth in 1994 Mathias made the decision to migrate to Australia permanently, attracted by the great lifestyle and opportunities on offer in Western Australia."
"Gillard was born in Wales, and migrated with her family to Adelaide, South Australia!"
What i'm curious about is why a family would flee Wales?
on 29-08-2013 05:06 PM
LL: "its odd to hear such a thick foreign accent in the australian parliament thats all"
Don' forget the Scots, and even Gillard's 457 Visa senior communications adviser, McTernan, who was thick in accent and performance.
on 29-08-2013 05:57 PM
@monman12 wrote:LL: "its odd to hear such a thick foreign accent in the australian parliament thats all"
Don' forget the Scots, and even Gillard's 457 Visa senior communications adviser, McTernan, who was thick in accent and performance.
Well they obviously doen't sound like a schwarzenegger voice over person.
Today he did the Arnie parrot fashion.
repeated everything 3 times.
on 29-08-2013 06:09 PM
The hardest pollie to understand is--Doog Camerooon.
on 29-08-2013 06:42 PM
I thought you were leaving?
http://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/So-long-posters/m-p/631560#U631560
on 29-08-2013 07:30 PM
@i-need-a-martini wrote:I thought you were leaving?
http://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/So-long-posters/m-p/631560#U631560
careful it's to trap that will get you in trouble 🙂
on 29-08-2013 07:34 PM
@monman12 wrote:LL: "its odd to hear such a thick foreign accent in the australian parliament thats all"
Don' forget the Scots, and even Gillard's 457 Visa senior communications adviser, McTernan, who was thick in accent and performance.
you can spot a tongue in cheek post, i know you can. i'm sure mathias was pre-selected initially for his boyish good looks more than anything.
on 29-08-2013 07:37 PM
@serendipityricho wrote:The hardest pollie to understand is--Doog Camerooon.
doug from cameroon ? i love dougs accent, reminds me of a friends voice. i don't think i'll tell my friend that though.
on 29-08-2013 08:25 PM
LL: "you can spot a tongue in cheek post, i know you can."
I missed it LL. However, I tried talking with my tongue in my cheek (to my dogs) and I was not sure whether they thought I was sick, or they were considering biting me.
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on 29-08-2013 08:28 PM
dogs are less tolerant of that kind of behaviour, they prefer clear instructions. they will tolerate anti-social scratching however