on 25-08-2014 09:12 AM
Truth overboard at Gillian Triggs’ inquiry on children in detention
Well done to Scott Morrison he ripper her and made her look stupid and a liar and this inquiry a political witch hunt
Well done to Immigration Department secretary Martin Bowles as well as he put her in her place after the blatant LIES she told...
Worth watching the video and Gillian Triggs squirm when she is exposed as a liar
THE Human Rights Commission president must resign after turning her inquiry on children in detention into a political witch-hunt last week.
Gillian Triggs’ behaviour was unforgivable for someone with semi-judicial powers, able to force witnesses to appear under threat of jail.
We cannot have the head of an inquiry showing such bias, heckling witnesses and making false and emotive claims from the bench to make the Christmas Island detention centre seem a hellhole.
Nor can we have an inquiry head giving media interviews attacking witnesses and summing up the issues before hearing all the evidence.
We also cannot have an inquiry head refusing to correct explosive claims about suicide attempts in detention when they’ve been debunked.
It is now impossible to have confidence in Triggs’ impartiality.
In fact, it’s hard not to suspect her inquiry is designed to reach a prejudged conclusion — to damn the Abbott Government’s successful border laws.
The very fact that Triggs, a law academic, called this taxpayer-funded inquiry is highly suspect.
The last time her commission looked into this issue was 2004 — which, what a surprise, was when the Howard government was stopping the boats, too.
No further inquiry was held in the seven years of Labor’s Rudd and Gillard governments, during which the border laws were weakened, luring more than 1200 men, women and children to their deaths and filling detention centres to bursting.
No, Triggs, appointed by Labor in 2012, waited until another Liberal government was back in power, stopping the boats and emptying the detention centres.
Sev Ozdowski, the former human rights commissioner responsible for the 2004 inquiry, calls this timing “very odd”.
“When the boats were arriving in large numbers and Labor was at its peak of cruelty towards the boat arrivals, (the commission) almost did not see the problem.”
But Triggs is now on the case, seemingly filled with a righteous anger at the Abbott Government, even though the boats have now stopped and the number of children in detention more than halved.
Last month, for instance, she claimed “we’ve had reports that have been confirmed during the day that 10 women have attempted suicide” on Christmas Island.
False. There has been only one case of self-harm by a woman that could with any credibility be described as “attempted suicide”. And, no, Madam President, sipping some shampoo does not qualify.
Triggs also claimed last month she’d visited the detained children on Christmas Island and “almost all of them, including the adults, were coughing, were sick, were depressed, unable to communicate (and) weak”, which made her want to ask: “What’s going on? Why is this child not being treated?”
False again. Sick children are indeed being treated and the Government hotly disputes Triggs’ claim that almost every detained child on Christmas Island is sick.
Told this, Triggs — with her inquiry still to hear from Immigration Minister Scott Morrison — gave another media interview rebuking Morrison as needing “to be better advised”, and insisting “all children should be removed from the detention centres and placed in the community”.
Er, isn’t that the very thing the inquiry is meant to determine at the end of the hearings, and not near the start? Should an inquiry head really be attacking witnesses even before they’ve given their evidence?
But if all that was bad, last week was a disgrace.
Morrison appeared before her inquiry and Triggs flew for his throat: “How can you justify detaining children in these conditions for more than a year when there is no evidence that this is the policy that is stopping the boats but rather Operation Sovereign Borders, however you define it, with three-star generals or civilian authorities, whatever name you put to it, the reality is that physical force and power have stopped these boats?”
Not biased? Triggs?
On it went.
Triggs insisted “the people on Christmas Island are being detained in a prison effectively” because on her three visits she had noticed “you cannot get into any of the sections without going through armed guards”.
That infuriated the Immigration Department secretary Martin Bowles, who protested at Triggs’ “emotive statements”.
“It is not fair to characterise the detention system as a jail,” he said, and Triggs should correct a falsehood.
“We do not have armed guards, President. I would like you to acknowledge that.”
Triggs would not, despite being repeatedly challenged on her “facts”.
But if the head of an inquiry can see armed guards where there are none, and a prison where there are only pool fences, what else is she imagining about what she’s supposed to impartially judge?
No, Triggs must resign. She is meant to confront injustice, not commit it.
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25-08-2014 02:16 PM - edited 25-08-2014 02:16 PM
yes, I've heard about that before Am, I'm sure he has a few skeletons in his closet too . He seems very quick to judge others but perhaps he should be looking at his own past first
on 25-08-2014 02:35 PM
@am*3 wrote:2012
Larry Pickering, 70, cartoonist, bankrupt & failed businessman, father of 11 children aged from 51 to two years and born to five different mothers.
Edwards Syndrome:
Half of infants with this condition do not survive beyond the first week of life.[10] The median lifespan is five to 15 days.[11][12] About 8% of infants survive longer than 1 year.[13] One percent of children live to age 10, typically in less severe cases of the mosaic Edwards syndrome.
I'm a bit puzzled about how it's possible to have an interpersonal dispute with Mr Pickering on this forum.
A state of bafflement prevails.
on 25-08-2014 04:45 PM
She was shown up for the radical leftist socialist she is. This commission should be disbanded and all the money spent on these **bleep**ers should go towards children with needs. Not counting Triggs child whom she abandoned. What a disgraceful piece she is.
A witch hunt, not a Labor politician in sight to answer for their policy that saw thousands killed.
So over this spiteful bias on here.
on 25-08-2014 04:50 PM
when something as profoundly unconscionable as this is on here and not a murmur about it but plenty of sympathy for illegal immigrants gaming the system, proud of yourselves huh.
Sickening is not even close to what Triggs is guilty of.
on 25-08-2014 04:51 PM
Is' bias' the new 'its Labors fault' ??
The catch cry ' They are biased! ( ie: the President of Press Council, President of HRC, for example) is just as lame as the repeated repetition of saying "Labor did it"
on 25-08-2014 04:55 PM
@am*3 wrote:Is' bias' the new 'its Labors fault' ??
The catch cry ' They are biased! ( ie: the President of Press Council, President of HRC, for example) is just as lame as the repeated repetition of saying "Labor did it"
I'm sure I don't have to explain to you what the word bias means but I will if you want. Google is your friend isn't it? or will you beg for links and research as usual.
on 25-08-2014 04:59 PM
@lightningdance wrote:She was shown up for the radical leftist socialist she is. This commission should be disbanded and all the money spent on these **bleep**ers should go towards children with needs. Not counting Triggs child whom she abandoned. What a disgraceful piece she is.
A witch hunt, not a Labor politician in sight to answer for their policy that saw thousands killed.
So over this spiteful bias on here.
so now she is a "radical leftist socialist"...hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah, what is Bishop Christopher Saunders? Spiteful bias, yes plenty of that - I think mirrors are on sale today.
The Australian government is in effect conducting a campaign of cruelty towards asylum seekers, the Chairman of the Australian Catholic Social Justice Council, Bishop Christopher Saunders, said today.
‘The government’s campaign, like that of its predecessors, has only one purpose: to deter desperate men, women and children from seeking protection from persecution and danger’, Bishop Saunders said.
‘The government claims that it is fighting a war’, Bishop Saunders said. ‘If it is a war, then it is being fought against wretched and defenceless people.’
‘We are ignoring the most important issue: the millions of people in our region and around the world who need protection and security.
‘The only hope for a solution to the refugee problem is international cooperation’, Bishop Saunders said.
‘Australia’s policies are undermining and destroying that hope by angering the very nations we need to work with.
‘It seems that friendly relationships with our neighbours are becoming collateral damage in pursuit of an aggressive and callous policy’, Bishop Saunders continued.
on 25-08-2014 05:02 PM
If Gillian Triggs was a man the fact that her disabled child's care was outsourced to carers would not have been brought up. And it has nothing to do with with the fact that we keep children in de-facto prison conditions. And the world is looking on with disgust. Australia used to be respected around the world, then we were concerned we are becoming a laughing stock; well, now we need to worry that we are quickly becoming international pariah.
on 25-08-2014 05:08 PM
found even more of those left,socialist, bias, spiteful types, absolutely outrageous... ooooohhhh they should all be sacked and and and and well and something, terrible just terrible leftist luvvies, probably drink latte's too.
The Australian Churches Refugee Taskforce has accused the Federal Government of state-sanctioned abuse of asylum seeker children in immigration detention. The Immigration Minister Scott Morrison says the claims are offensive and the Government is committed to protecting children from exploitation and abuse. But the taskforce wants the Minister to be stripped of his guardianship role of children in immigration detention.
on 25-08-2014 05:10 PM
Do you happen to know if they indeed use armed guards in detention centres, nova?