Truth overboard at Gillian Triggs’ inquiry on children in detention

nero_bolt
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Truth overboard at Gillian Triggs’ inquiry on children in detention 

 

 

Well done to Scott Morrison he ripper her and made her look stupid and a liar and this inquiry a political witch hunt

 

Well done to Immigration Department secretary Martin Bowles as well as he put her in her place after the blatant LIES she told... 

 

Worth watching the video and Gillian Triggs squirm when she is exposed as a liar

 

 

 

THE Human Rights Commission president must resign after turning her inquiry on children in detention into a political witch-hunt last week. 

 

Gillian Triggs’ behaviour was unforgivable for someone with semi-judicial powers, able to force witnesses to appear under threat of jail.

 

We cannot have the head of an inquiry showing such bias, heckling witnesses and making false and emotive claims from the bench to make the Christmas Island detention centre seem a hellhole.

 

Nor can we have an inquiry head giving media interviews attacking witnesses and summing up the issues before hearing all the evidence.

 

We also cannot have an inquiry head refusing to correct explosive claims about suicide attempts in detention when they’ve been debunked.

 

It is now impossible to have confidence in Triggs’ impartiality.

 

In fact, it’s hard not to suspect her inquiry is designed to reach a prejudged conclusion — to damn the Abbott Government’s successful border laws.

 

The very fact that Triggs, a law academic, called this taxpayer-funded inquiry is highly suspect.

 

The last time her commission looked into this issue was 2004 — which, what a surprise, was when the Howard government was stopping the boats, too.

 

No further inquiry was held in the seven years of Labor’s Rudd and Gillard governments, during which the border laws were weakened, luring more than 1200 men, women and children to their deaths and filling detention centres to bursting.

 

No, Triggs, appointed by Labor in 2012, waited until another Liberal government was back in power, stopping the boats and emptying the detention centres.

 

Sev Ozdowski, the former human rights commissioner responsible for the 2004 inquiry, calls this timing “very odd”.

 

“When the boats were arriving in large numbers and Labor was at its peak of cruelty towards the boat arrivals, (the commission) almost did not see the problem.”

 

 

 

But Triggs is now on the case, seemingly filled with a righteous anger at the Abbott Government, even though the boats have now stopped and the number of children in detention more than halved.

 

Last month, for instance, she claimed “we’ve had reports that have been confirmed during the day that 10 women have attempted suicide” on Christmas Island.

 

False. There has been only one case of self-harm by a woman that could with any credibility be described as “attempted suicide”. And, no, Madam President, sipping some shampoo does not qualify.

 

Triggs also claimed last month she’d visited the detained children on Christmas Island and “almost all of them, including the adults, were coughing, were sick, were depressed, unable to communicate (and) weak”, which made her want to ask: “What’s going on? Why is this child not being treated?”

 

False again. Sick children are indeed being treated and the Government hotly disputes Triggs’ claim that almost every detained child on Christmas Island is sick.

 

Told this, Triggs — with her inquiry still to hear from Immigration Minister Scott Morrison — gave another media interview rebuking Morrison as needing “to be better advised”, and insisting “all children should be removed from the detention centres and placed in the community”.

 

Er, isn’t that the very thing the inquiry is meant to determine at the end of the hearings, and not near the start? Should an inquiry head really be attacking witnesses even before they’ve given their evidence?

 

But if all that was bad, last week was a disgrace.

 

Morrison appeared before her inquiry and Triggs flew for his throat: “How can you justify detaining children in these conditions for more than a year when there is no evidence that this is the policy that is stopping the boats but rather Operation Sovereign Borders, however you define it, with three-star generals or civilian authorities, whatever name you put to it, the reality is that physical force and power have stopped these boats?”

 

Not biased? Triggs?

 

On it went.

 

Triggs insisted “the people on Christmas Island are being detained in a prison effectively” because on her three visits she had noticed “you cannot get into any of the sections without going through armed guards”.

 

That infuriated the Immigration Department secretary Martin Bowles, who protested at Triggs’ “emotive statements”.

 

“It is not fair to characterise the detention system as a jail,” he said, and Triggs should correct a falsehood.

 

“We do not have armed guards, President. I would like you to acknowledge that.”

 

Triggs would not, despite being repeatedly challenged on her “facts”.

 

But if the head of an inquiry can see armed guards where there are none, and a prison where there are only pool fences, what else is she imagining about what she’s supposed to impartially judge?

 

No, Triggs must resign. She is meant to confront injustice, not commit it.

 

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/opinion/truth-overboard-at-gillian-triggs-inquiry-on-children-in-de...

 

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"double standards", Am that is too kind - absolutely no standards, lower than a snakes belly - is more fitting - for pickles and his cronies.

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Yeah I agree Joono, I just looked her up on Wikipedia, she is a very highly qualified woman & thank goodness she is Australian & possibly aware of the gutter press here. Just imagine the embarrassment if Pickering wrote trash like that about a dignitary from OS

But then again everything he pens is trash

730 something followers on twitter lol
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It would be very sad to have a child who is "as retarded as can be".  I guess if Pickering had a child like that he would give up his career to look after it full time.  If a child is so retarded that it does not know who is looking after them, does it really matter?

I knew somebody who had a little girl who was deaf, blind and quadriplegic, they both had to stay at home and become full time carers for the years she lived - about 10 years. 

 

To bring up something like this to attack Gillian Triggs is the lowest I can think off.  It just leaves me speechless. 

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Voltaire: “Those Who Can Make You Believe Absurdities, Can Make You Commit Atrocities” .
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I don't think Pickering actually has a twitter account Deb.  He wouldn't dare to post where people can actually reply to him where they can't be edited out.

If the Larry Pickering one you are talking about is real and not a fake one then he doesn't use it much.  Probably for that reason.

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@nero_wulf wrote:

Perhaps Ms Triggs) might reflect on the care she afforded her own ( and her then husband's Prof. Clark ) third child, Victoria, born in 1984, who she describes as being retarted profoundly disabled, with the rare chromosomal disorder Edwards sydnrome.

 

"Victoria "being was as profoundly  severely retarded as anyone who is still alive can be". Trigg says. Triggs told the Melbourne Age, "Her condition usually results in the death of the baby before or shortly after birth. In fact, the doctors kept saying to me, 'Just leave her in the corner and she'll die.’ I know it  So, it sounds terrible, but I'd look at Victoria and think, 'Well, you're going to die, so I'm not going to invest too much in you.’ ”But Victoria she didn't die.She had this inner rod of determination and simply refused to die.

 

At about six months of age, an impatient Triggs, found a family prepared to look after her.  Triggs and Clark took Victoria home, and with the help of the Uniting Church found a family ' to whom we are forever grateful" who assumed her primary c.are The family gave her the primary care she so desperately needed before (Victoria died seven years ago at the age of 21.)

 

When I asked Triggs if this arrangement bothered her, she says 'Yes, because you have a child and you expect to look after her. But in the end I simply made the judgement that I would rather put my time into my other children and family, because I never believed she would live to that age"

 

Tim Elliot, Journalist - April 26, 2013

http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/the-rights-stuff-20130423-2ic8h.html


 

There are parents who make the same decision above (profoundly disabled child), especially when they have other children to bring up. 

My sister works in a group residential home for Intellectually Disabled persons. The residents there are loved & visited by their families, but the families are unable to provide the round the clock care, that some of the profoundly disabled residents need.

 

I might put a complaint into the Press Council re the newspaper that published  that Pickering post. A disabled child,  has nothing at all to do with her appointment as President of the Human Rights Commission. I would encourage others to do the same.

 

http://www.presscouncil.org.au/making-a-complaint/

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I've just posted a link to you elsewhere Joono. I won't post it here, the cartoons are too disgusting

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That tells a slightly different story am3.

 

Thanks Deb.  He hasn't used it since 2012.  He must have not enjoyed unedited opinions.

Joono
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he should close it down imo lol

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2012

 

Larry Pickering, 70, cartoonist, bankrupt & failed businessman,  father of 11 children aged from 51 to two years and born to five different mothers.

 

 

Edwards Syndrome:

 

Half of infants with this condition do not survive beyond the first week of life.[10] The median lifespan is five to 15 days.[11][12] About 8% of infants survive longer than 1 year.[13] One percent of children live to age 10, typically in less severe cases of the mosaic Edwards syndrome.

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Australian Press Council

 

General Principle 1: Accurate, fair and balanced reporting


Publications should take reasonable steps to ensure reports are accurate, fair and balanced. They should not deliberately mislead or misinform readers either by omission or commission.

 

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