on โ09-02-2015 09:18 AM
on โ09-02-2015 10:42 AM
@vicr3000 wrote:
@azureline** wrote:Have you met AM3?
her post was clearly from the SMH.
I know it was from the SMH, it said so at the bottom.
I had already read the article.
Hey, she set the criteria over how Abbott needed to win, and he did so convincingly.
She just doesn't want to except it was that way.
That is a false accusation.
โ09-02-2015 10:46 AM - edited โ09-02-2015 10:46 AM
@vicr3000 wrote:
The previous vote to make him leader of the LNP was 41/42
So he has gone from a majorioty of one to a much bigger majority.
How can that NOT be an improvement ?
Previous vote as you pointed out was to make him leader - before he became the Leader
Today's outcome 39 votes against is 16 mths after he become leader, and show a high % (nearly 40) of persons discontented with his leadership.
I wouldn't have thought that would bet too hard to work out.
on โ09-02-2015 10:48 AM
@icyfroth wrote:
@am*3 wrote:
9:23am: This is not a good result for Mr Abbott.
He retains the leadership but 39 MPs (out of 101 who were present) have cast what is essentially a vote of no confidence in him.
This means the leadership issue is far from resolved.
SMH Live_______________________________________________________________________________________________Can't see much of a future career in politics for those 39, can you?
I reckon MT's a goner as well.
What are you reasons for saying that? I do think they will continue on their career in politics, if they choose to.
on โ09-02-2015 10:49 AM
@vicr3000 wrote:
MT and the two who put upm the Motion might go but the others will be OK.
Not sure how much Malcolm was behind this, we will find out.
Anyway, BAD judgement call.
Abbott WILL now change his ways.
Do you have a crystal ball? If not, there is no way you can predict that. Also you are admitting he has been very flawed in the past as the Leader by making that statement.
on โ09-02-2015 10:54 AM
polks wrote:
I am not at all disappointed. I am extremely pleased. He will be done slowly, to quote someone else.
I take note of senior political commentators before uninformed posters.
As for the last statment, check out your supporters and their posts.
____________________________________________________________________________________________________
Good post.
Ones that compare a pre leader vote with a post 16mths down the track leader vote comes to mind.
on โ09-02-2015 10:56 AM
@am*3 wrote:
@icyfroth wrote:
@am*3 wrote:
9:23am: This is not a good result for Mr Abbott.
He retains the leadership but 39 MPs (out of 101 who were present) have cast what is essentially a vote of no confidence in him.
This means the leadership issue is far from resolved.
SMH Live_______________________________________________________________________________________________Can't see much of a future career in politics for those 39, can you?
I reckon MT's a goner as well.
What are you reasons for saying that? I do think they will continue on their career in politics, if they choose to.
They haven't exactly proven themselves loyal, have they? Or trustworthy.
on โ09-02-2015 10:58 AM
on โ09-02-2015 11:03 AM
@lurker172602 wrote:
I don't know about that. Obviously I'm not in their electoral offices to know, but I suspect they may be being very loyal to their constituents.
True we don't know about that, and suspicions aren't fact.
What we do know is that they haven't shown themselves loyal to their party leader, and by extension to the people of Australia by trying to once again bring about the sort of chaos that had defined the previous government.
on โ09-02-2015 11:04 AM
If you don't agree with the view below, no need to attack the poster. I agree with the views below
SMH Live
10:52am:
Some analysis for you to digest over morning tea.
Chief political correspondent Mark Kenny writes that Mr Abbott's leadership is now terminal, that it is only a matter of time before he is replaced.
The Age's political editor, Michael Gordon, is similarly gloomy about the longevity of Mr Abbott's prime ministership.
Ice vo-vo anyone?
on โ09-02-2015 11:06 AM
@icyfroth wrote:
@lurker172602 wrote:
I don't know about that. Obviously I'm not in their electoral offices to know, but I suspect they may be being very loyal to their constituents.True we don't know about that, and suspicions aren't fact.
What we do know is that they haven't shown themselves loyal to their party leader, and by extension to the people of Australia by trying to once again bring about the sort of chaos that had defined the previous government.
actually . it is fact, they said they were hearing from their constituents.