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Weak Shorten clubbed by Conroy

silverfaun
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The weak and ineffectual Shorten has no sway over most of his caucus and the trouncing he got yesterday in trying to wrap himself in the "I love the armed forces" was seen for what it was, a leader who cannot command his own troops:

 

 

IT is a rare political creature who is able to prosper in the ranks of their party while sinking ever further into the mire of public contumely and contempt.

 

Yet Stephen Conroy, Labor’s deputy Senate leader, sits among the human and policy wreckage he has wrought, surveying the national landscape for another inglorious hit.

 

Again, Senator Conroy has gone over the top. Instead of whacking a factional enemy, slandering a Coalition opponent in parliament or attacking News Corp Australia via the apparatus of state, Labor’s Victorian overlord has tried to sully the reputation of one of the nation’s most-respected soldiers, Lieutenant General Angus Campbell.

 

At a Senate estimates hearing on Tuesday evening, Labor’s defence spokesman launched a cowardly attack, alleging that the head of the Abbott government’s Operation Sovereign Borders initiative to combat people-smuggling was involved in a “political cover-up”.

 

 

In the knowing words of his mentor Robert Ray, Senator Conroy is a “factional Dalek”. In a 2006 speech, the former senator noted the rise of a “Stasi element” in the ALP: “A whole production line of soulless apparatchiks has emerged: highly proficient and professional, but with no Labor soul; control freaks with tunnel vision; ruthless leakers in their self-interest; individuals who would rather the party lose an election than that they lose their place in the pecking order.” 

 

Certainly Senator Conroy has ruthlessly pursued his career in the byzantine world of ALP patronage and payback; his fractious alliance with Bill Shorten in Victoria sees the so-called “Short-Cons” controlling preselections and the feeble spoils of opposition.

 

Since being shoehorned into the Senate to fill a vacancy in 1996, it is nigh impossible to credit him with a single original contribution to the national debate, his party’s rejuvenation or a greater cause than his own promotion.

 

Oh, there was the removal of a stray prime minister or two. That Senator Conroy has an odd relationship with language, reality and proper policy has been apparent for some time.

 

As communications minister in the Rudd-Gillard government, he claimed he was so powerful he could force telco bosses to wear red underpants on their heads in the contest for digital spectrum. It’s curious that someone who sees conspiracies at play and calls for openness now was so instrumental in trying to muzzle a free press - in particular, The Australian’s parent company - through an ill-conceived media inquiry.

 

Remember his lame-brained internet filter? Set-top boxes, anyone?

Senator Conroy’s fiscal and policy notoriety, however, is secure in the National Broadband Network debacle: no cost-benefit plan, a seemingly bottomless taxpayer money pit, a botched and tardy rollout, all juiced up by the vanity of a tech-evangelist minister with a penchant for covering up bad news.

 

On Senator Conroy’s watch, secrecy ruled the NBN, Australia’s largest infrastructure boondoggle. Almost $7 billion in public funds have been ploughed into the NBN to complete a mere 3 per cent of the rollout, while the signature “Gigabit Nation” service does not have a single end-user customer. Then there’s the $350 million satellite

Senator Conroy purchased to provide super-fast broadband for the bush. How’s that working out? Not well.

 

Mr Shorten’s woeful performance in parliament yesterday proves he is not up to bringing his errant colleague into line. By refusing to apologise to General Campbell, Senator Conroy has shown himself unfit to be the alternative defence minister. In seeking to make a grubby political point in an obscure forum that now resembles a Roman blood arena, he has trashed a fine military tradition and all serving men and women. He’ll squirm and squawk like a wounded animal because he can’t handle this simple truth: Senator Conroy, you’ve outlived your welcome.

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/editorials/labors-brazen-attack-dog-finds-himself-in-the-gut...

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I consider Senator Conroy a particularly odiouys character....always have.

His public televised attack on the service smells to me of grandstanding.

He is soooo up himself. 

I have always thought he really belonged on the other side

Bill Shorten was wise to distance himself.

 

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silverfaun
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Bill Shorten distanced himself from integrity and doing the right thing as a leader of his party.

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@lakeland27 wrote:

Humility Newstart, humility. i don't presume to be worthy of the privilege of starting a new political thread. Smiley Happy


I do so love your sense of humour if not your politics


Keep it nice, I might cry if you write anything upsetting (like not)
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@freakiness wrote:

On Senator Conroy’s watch, secrecy ruled the NBN, Australia’s largest infrastructure boondoggle. Almost $7 billion in public funds have been ploughed into the NBN to complete a mere 3 per cent of the rollout, while the signature “Gigabit Nation” service does not have a single end-user customer. Then there’s the $350 million satellite

 

There was $5B spent on the NBN pre election and the first stages of the roll out consisted of planning and building the back bones of the network to support the connection of premises.  Do you perhaps expect that they lay fibre to premises without first building the basis of the network to connect those premises to?

 

Does the gigabit nation comment refer to people who have signed up for a gigabit service already? 

 

What's the $350 million satellite you mention?  Is it the interim satellite service that has already reached capacity, even though Turnbull claimed it was overkill at the time and not neede?  Or is it the new satellites which are on order being constructed now and due for launch next year?


but is was overkill because it is a waste of money when the people are better off with their old internet service because this one was way too slow and way below capacity. 

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@catsnknots wrote:

@freakiness wrote:

On Senator Conroy’s watch, secrecy ruled the NBN, Australia’s largest infrastructure boondoggle. Almost $7 billion in public funds have been ploughed into the NBN to complete a mere 3 per cent of the rollout, while the signature “Gigabit Nation” service does not have a single end-user customer. Then there’s the $350 million satellite

 

There was $5B spent on the NBN pre election and the first stages of the roll out consisted of planning and building the back bones of the network to support the connection of premises.  Do you perhaps expect that they lay fibre to premises without first building the basis of the network to connect those premises to?

 

Does the gigabit nation comment refer to people who have signed up for a gigabit service already? 

 

What's the $350 million satellite you mention?  Is it the interim satellite service that has already reached capacity, even though Turnbull claimed it was overkill at the time and not neede?  Or is it the new satellites which are on order being constructed now and due for launch next year?


but is was overkill because it is a waste of money when the people are better off with their old internet service because this one was way too slow and way below capacity. 


Do you mean the interim satellite service?

If so it is better than the previous ABG service, even though it is using some of the same sats.  The current service is an interim service to provide for those who'd previously been using the ABG plans.  They old plans are just not up to the required standard for today's use.  They're like sharing a dial up connection with all your neighbours.  The interim sat service is not great but is at least usable,  with limitations.

 

It can't be overkill because they have reached capacity already.

 

The new ones which will be launched next year will offer a better service again.

 

http://delimiter.com.au/2012/02/11/the-truth-about-nbn-cos-satellite-needs/

analysis Does the National Broadband Network Company really need to launch two expensive new satellites to provide remote Australia with broadband? Setting the politics aside, from a technical perspective, it appears the answer is a clear: “Yes”.

 

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Being such a well versed person in all matters NBN, can you tell me how many people will those 'interim' satellites service and for how long?

I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.
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@poddster wrote:

Being such a well versed person in all matters NBN, can you tell me how many people will those 'interim' satellites service and for how long?


They're at capacity. They service 48,000 premises, or there abouts and will do so until the NBN sats are launched and go online in 2015 unless they decide to hunt for some more space to rent in the mean time.

The interim service is leased space on IPstar and Optus sats.   Demand exceeded supply much earlier than expected.

 

How can anyone describe this as overkill?

 

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@freakiness wrote:

@poddster wrote:

Being such a well versed person in all matters NBN, can you tell me how many people will those 'interim' satellites service and for how long?


They're at capacity. They service 48,000 premises, or there abouts and will do so until the NBN sats are launched and go online in 2015 unless they decide to hunt for some more space to rent in the mean time.

The interim service is leased space on IPstar and Optus sats.   Demand exceeded supply much earlier than expected.

 

How can anyone describe this as overkill?

 


Please....... if you want to start another thread about NBN you are free to do so but I think defending NBN, under Conroy,  has run its course. 

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@silverfaun wrote:

@freakiness wrote:

@poddster wrote:

Being such a well versed person in all matters NBN, can you tell me how many people will those 'interim' satellites service and for how long?


They're at capacity. They service 48,000 premises, or there abouts and will do so until the NBN sats are launched and go online in 2015 unless they decide to hunt for some more space to rent in the mean time.

The interim service is leased space on IPstar and Optus sats.   Demand exceeded supply much earlier than expected.

 

How can anyone describe this as overkill?

 


Please....... if you want to start another thread about NBN you are free to do so but I think defending NBN, under Conroy,  has run its course. 


Did you not notice I responded to the mention of the NBN in the OP?

I did quote the relevant paragraph. Perhpas you should have deleted that bit if you didn't want anyone to respond to it.

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Maybe I dont want to read any more of your c&p scrollers all things NBN, thats overkill.

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