What About The Children?

[the_great_she_elephant]

I am amazed and disgusted that in all the indignation over what Gillian Triggs should or shouldn't have done or who said or didn't say what to her, not ONE SINGLE POLITICIAN  except, finally, Malcolm Turnbull, has commented in any way on the contents of her report..

She found that  over a 15-month period from January 2013 to March 2014, spanning both the Labor and Coalition governments  there were 233 recorded assaults involving children and 33 incidents of reported sexual assault. 

If these findings are true - and as far as I know nobody has so far disputed them -   then what is going to be done about it? Who had the duty of care? who is going to be held responsible. What measures are going to be put in place to stop this abuse happening in future?

Both Gillian Triggs and George Brandis are astute and comparitively wealthy adults able to instruct top  legal practitioners to protect their reputaions - but who is going to protect the safety of these children? How many more children have been abused since March 2014? Is a child perhaps being abused in a detention centre  even while you are reading this post? 

Surely to goodness after all that was learned from the Children In Care Royal Commission this report cannot simply be put in a "don't want to know" basket while both sides of Pariament try to gain political mileage out the motives of the Human Rghts Commissioner or the behaviour of the Attourney General.

At some point -though probably not in the lifetime of this government  or even  the one that follows it - there will inevitably be a Royal Commission into the treatment of children in detention centre. what do you imagine its findings are likely to be?

[vicr3000]

"pool fenced Alternative Place Of Detention"

I love that LOL

I bet they didn't have fenced pools where they came from !

[raptor_rebooted]

and here are the 'armed personnel'

An asylum-seeker is apprehended by guards after leaving the Christmas Island airport terminal while in transit. Picture: Colin Murty Source: The Australian

Serco manages and operates immigration facilities in Australia on behalf of the Department of Immigration and Border Protection.

Administered under two contracts, these include Immigration Detention Centres, Alternative Places of Detention, Immigration Residential Housing, and Immigration Transit Accommodation.

[vicr3000]

Wow, look at the guns. And batons, and tasers, and capsicum spray.

One of them is even carrying a crutch to beat the detainees with !

And look at that woman guard, she has TWO lethal weapons in use at the same time.

Oh, sorry, they are hands

Maybe Triggs needs to go to an Optomotrist

That woman guard on the ground should have kicked upwards very hard into the nuts of the bloke over here.

Would have made him think twice about pushing a woman again.

[raptor_rebooted]

The head of the company which runs Australia's detention centres has admitted that administration staff were told to act as security during the Christmas Island riots.

Outside the hearing, the union United Voice said Serco's administrative staff were dressed in the blue polo t-shirts normally worn by security guards and were put on the front lines.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-11-30/serco-hospital-record-explained/3704556

[vicr3000]

Which is irrelevant in the scheme of things.

They aren't armed.

[raptor_rebooted]

i think it is relevant because it further

demonstrated there were no armed personnel.

[lloydslights]

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@*julia*2010 wrote:

this is what deb may have been referring to 

when she posted:

When Ms Triggs was faced with one of the difficult questions, after a stutter she started the don't-you-know-who-I-am routine, citing that she'd been in law for 40 years, etc. That sort of comeback really riles me and appears to be a belittling bullying tactic.

Morrison: "...and are you suggesting that Long Bay Gaol is the same as a pool fenced Alternative Place Of Detention at Phosphate Hill on Christmas Island"?
Triggs: "............um, I would like to move on but basically I have been a practicing lawyer since I was 22 years old so I know a prison when I see it"

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To Glee, selective removal of parts of my thread makes a nuisance of things.

Julia has responded well on my behalf to.

DEB

[vicr3000]

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@*julia*2010 wrote:

i think it is relevant because it further

demonstrated there were no armed personnel.

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Sorry, I meant relevant.

(I was reading something else, slip of the fingers !)

[the_great_she_elephant]

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@*julia*2010 wrote:

i think it is relevant because it further

demonstrated there were no armed personnel.

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If there were no armed guards, does that mean the abuse documented in that report didn't happen?

[raptor_rebooted]

sorry, cant help you with that.

i disputed glee's claim because i have

knowledge about the particular issue.