on 19-07-2013 04:39 PM
on 20-07-2013 09:30 AM
@i-need-a-martini wrote:It was clearly reported icy.
Aistralia is building a new large scale hospital and will put funding toward education and law and order reform - all things that PNG desperately need.
For PNG the issue is in their best interests in so many ways that it is almost brilliant policy making by Rudd.
So they're going to turn up on PNG shores and go straight to work in the mines?
Whose paying for their housing and other resettling needs? The mining companies? The PNG government ? The Australian government?
on 20-07-2013 10:11 AM
Yes its costing us a lot , We will pay to house them in the short term while processed and then we have to pay HALF PNG,s University bill. But in some ways thats not so bad atleast our money is educating fuzzy wuzzies who we owe a great deal to during the war. Yes I know but what about our schools hospitals etc. I guess you could always vote coalition then it wont happen. OH the choices who gets to spend mine and your money. Kevvy or Tony. Hmmm voted labor since day one but after his first term and then Gillard sarga and now Rudd on the lose in kev13 ill give Tony a shot this time and if he stuffs up he is gone next time atleast 3 years might get labor to clean out there garbage, start with the unions and Shorten first.
on 20-07-2013 10:44 AM
@icyfroth wrote:
@i-need-a-martini wrote:It was clearly reported icy.
Aistralia is building a new large scale hospital and will put funding toward education and law and order reform - all things that PNG desperately need.
For PNG the issue is in their best interests in so many ways that it is almost brilliant policy making by Rudd.
So they're going to turn up on PNG shores and go straight to work in the mines?Whose paying for their housing and other resettling needs? The mining companies? The PNG government ? The Australian government?
I suppose they will find work eventually the same as any other migrant. I understand their unemployment rate is quite low.
Australia is paying for their resettlment under the same deal we have now with Manus. It's our problem after all.
I suppose the point of the policy (which is starting to grow on me) is not about the cost in dollars but the cost in lives. From that point of view it should work. Probably not in the short term until the information and understanding filters through but eventually the message will be clear.
on 20-07-2013 10:45 AM
@1sweetap6v8 wrote:Yes its costing us a lot , We will pay to house them in the short term while processed and then we have to pay HALF PNG,s University bill. But in some ways thats not so bad atleast our money is educating fuzzy wuzzies who we owe a great deal to during the war. Yes I know but what about our schools hospitals etc. I guess you could always vote coalition then it wont happen. OH the choices who gets to spend mine and your money. Kevvy or Tony. Hmmm voted labor since day one but after his first term and then Gillard sarga and now Rudd on the lose in kev13 ill give Tony a shot this time and if he stuffs up he is gone next time atleast 3 years might get labor to clean out there garbage, start with the unions and Shorten first.
1sweet - can you please use paragraphs? I notice you are posting quite large tracks of words on the boards and I am sure it is all very interesting but it is unreadable in it's current format.
on 20-07-2013 10:54 AM
on 20-07-2013 12:09 PM
usual fudmongers around the joint pushin' the story that from png, they'll jump in a tinny and enter australia
errr .. wot, lose their status and benefits as asylum seekers, and become illegal immigrants, no way to get government assistance, no way to register for work, no way to ever be able to qualify for family reunion
yeh, righto.
on 20-07-2013 04:40 PM
@i-need-a-martini wrote:
@icyfroth wrote:
@i-need-a-martini wrote:It was clearly reported icy.
Aistralia is building a new large scale hospital and will put funding toward education and law and order reform - all things that PNG desperately need.
For PNG the issue is in their best interests in so many ways that it is almost brilliant policy making by Rudd.
So they're going to turn up on PNG shores and go straight to work in the mines?Whose paying for their housing and other resettling needs? The mining companies? The PNG government ? The Australian government?I suppose they will find work eventually the same as any other migrant. I understand their unemployment rate is quite low.
Australia is paying for their resettlment under the same deal we have now with Manus. It's our problem after all.
Excuse me? It's our problem?
These people land on our shores because all sorts of hell has broken loose thanks to the UN and the US intervention policies and they've found a ready market in people smugglers and can afford to pay up big to be delivered on our shores to live happily ever after on our welfare system?
Ok so if they can find ready employment in mining in the PNG why can't they do the same here in Aus instead of relying on our welfare system?
Previous generations of migrants were expected to fill the shortfall in labor for our manufacturing industries, after all.