on โ27-12-2013 05:49 PM
on โ30-12-2013 07:16 AM
Will I start ??? hmmm....
I have the opinion that reincarnation is true - not shared by a lot of people
on โ30-12-2013 07:17 AM
Yes, saw tongue in cheek stawka
on โ30-12-2013 08:48 AM
it would be wise to stop breeding like rabbits, and I mean EVERYONE which means YOU!
on โ30-12-2013 09:53 AM
@*pepe wrote:but they don't even need to be bikies - they just need to be a group that the police deem to be unlawful.
Yes under the law it could be a group of people protesting against Abbott's $5 fee to see a doctor,
or even green peace
any body that embarrasses the government is at risk of being jailed with no rights
on โ30-12-2013 10:05 AM
I've read those queensland laws and I still dont get how they affect everybody? To me it reads that you have to have commited a specified crime (there is a list) and be a member or associate of a specified motorbike club (another list).
So I figure as long as I dont start hanging around with groups of hells angels or others on the list I'm pretty safe.
on โ30-12-2013 10:17 AM
@punch*drunk wrote:I've read those queensland laws and I still dont get how they affect everybody? To me it reads that you have to have commited a specified crime (there is a list) and be a member or associate of a specified motorbike club (another list).
So I figure as long as I dont start hanging around with groups of hells angels or others on the list I'm pretty safe.
As it is written any group can be declared a criminal organisation and have no rights, you are guilty until you prove your innocence.
and as it is there is no one but the police minister that decides if you are a criminal and have no rights, all your basic rights are removed with a single persons say so
on โ30-12-2013 10:25 AM
So I figure as long as I dont start hanging around with groups of hells angels or others on the list I'm pretty safe
Punch the problem is you may not even know and they dont even have to be HA's or any bikie members as such two of your work mates may know some and are considered as associates by the police because they have been somewhere together, then you go to the pub for Christmas drinks and you can be locked up for 25 years because you are associating with deemed criminals even thou they have done nothing wrong or broken any law.
you are guilty by association of a crime and not because you committed one, this is why these laws are so wrong and bad for every Australian.
The police have plenty of powers already to tackle real crime, these laws are not just about controlling bikies its about controlling all Australians and should be feared
on โ30-12-2013 10:29 AM
on โ30-12-2013 11:29 AM
It is my opinion that Acacia is a feminine sounding name and yet Kennedia sounds more masculine. It confuses me.
on โ30-12-2013 11:51 AM