When a chicken lays an egg

[*crikey*mate*]

does it hurt?

[*ibis]

 Do they grieve when you pinch their eggs from under them?

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!

starts foaming at the mouth

[*elizabeths-mum*]

Not ibis's! We all know they are a higher being. (deity even ...) 😛

[izabsmiling]

on a human level...does someone being raised and living in inhumane conditions (ie; living and raised as a chicken with chickens) make it any more humane because that's all that individual has ever known ?

[*elizabeths-mum*]

Are you thinking of situations where a family will keep their intellectually disabled child in one room, throwing food in once a day and hosing it out once a week or situations like third world slums, iza?

[the_great_she_elephant]

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@am*3 wrote:

A thing for me also is, when (what decade?) did they start cramming hens in cages to get hens eggs.

At the time I was a child, hens were free range, for eggs and meat. I lived in a rural area, we had 2 nearish neighbours that had chicken farms..

VIC chicken farmer: He said free range chickens were more vulnerable to disease and had higher mortality rates as their environments could not be controlled.

Again chickens would have been free range on chicken farms decades ago, so why is it a problem now?

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I remember as a child being taken to the Festival Of Britain in London . It was a showcase of new British industry and one of the working exhibits wasa battery shed. I can still see the little automated feed trolley running along in front of each row of cages and the hens pecking at the grain as it passed their cage. That was in1953 andi  I think battery farming  was a fairly new innovation - at least ln England - at that time 

[izabsmiling]

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@*elizabeths-mum* wrote:
Are you thinking of situations where a family will keep their intellectually disabled child in one room, throwing food in once a day and hosing it out once a week or situations like third world slums, iza?

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yes EM, situations like that.We know even if those families/children don't that that is inhumane.

Am3, the issue now is Biosecurity

[izabsmiling]

this 

http://www.animalhealthaustralia.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Code-of-Practice-for-Biosecurity-...

The Agriculture and Resource Management Council of Australia and New Zealand
(ARMCANZ) requested that the Australian Egg Industry Association (AEIA) prepare a
Biosecurity Plan as part of a National Quality Assurance Programme for:
bird welfare, bird health, food safety, biosecurity and egg labeling; and
the prevention of Emergency Diseases (Virulent Newcastle Disease, Avian
Influenza and Very Virulent Infectious Bursal Disease) and the allocation of
compensation funds in the event of an outbreak of an Emergency Disease.
ARMCANZ also required that the National Quality Assurance Programme be based on
Hazard Analysis Critical Control Point (HACCP) principles and that it must include
provision for third party auditing.
While individual producers in the commercial egg industry have implemented a
Biosecurity Plan, there is no industry Code for Biosecurity documented in Australia.
Biosecurity programmes and procedures (Biosecurity Plan) are an essential part of health
control measures to protect poultry flocks from harmful infectious organisms, pests and
diseases.

[cherry*135]

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@crikey*mate wrote:

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@am*3 wrote:

 A Happy Hen

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he's dead! and he's not smiling, so how do you know?

LOLOLOL

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1. It is a she  - hen, not a rooster

2. It says on the label underneath 'Happy Hen' (Blue Hamburg) so that's how I know.

3.  No comment on the dead bit

Where is Clair? She is a resident chook expert. I am sure her hens were happy hens.

[cherry*135]

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@crikey*mate wrote:

So, does it hurt when a chicken lays an egg?

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How would we know?  It is natural for hens to lay eggs. Eggs are nice oval shapes.

[purple_haize]

Our hens are happy, they have a huge yard to dig around in, they have a shed that is warm and secure at night, occasionally OH lets them roam around my garden.

They are always *talking* and seem very happy and content. They cackle when they lay an egg.......their eggs are lovely, we get alot of double yokers.

They are part of the family, along with the cats, dogs, & fish, woudnt be without them..