Where did all the good cops go ?

[softail-joanie]

. http://freedominourtime.blogspot.com/2012/04/officer-regina-tasca-goes-rogue.html

Heres a clue- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LClXj3XGuRM . . . . . . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdgIxJNlG_Y

Tasca instinctively did what any legitimate peace officer should do: She intervened to protect the victim, pulling Rella off the helpless and battered young man. Tasca’s act was one of instinctive decency, genuine principle, and no small amount of courage. It was also the action dictated by her department’s use-of-force policy, the first page of which specifies that it is “the responsibility of law enforcement to take steps possible to prevent or stop the illegal or inappropriate use of force by other officers.”

In his report on the case, Judge Donohue acknowledged that Tasca acted in compliance with the use-of-force policy – but he dismissed that fact on the preposterous grounds that “no evidence was presented to establish that Officer Tasca even knew about the document.”

The judge dismissed the fact that Tasca acted according to the law because there was no proof that she knew the law? This judge is the so-called independent expert that the Bogota mayor and his cohorts hired. He’s now retired. I wonder when that happened. The New Jersey article provides this quote about the judge from the mayor:

“She had the hearing. He turned around and said she should be fired. We did the right thing by her I think. We did what we were supposed to do. It certainly wasn’t political.”

Earlier in the same month, Tasca had prompted criticism for failing to rush to the aid of her partner, Officer Jay Fowler, during a brief confrontation with a tiny, drunken woman at a hospital. The woman, who was not a criminal suspect, was taken to the hospital for medical attention. She decided to leave, and when Fowler – who had already surrendered custody to the hospital – tried to stop her, the young woman “flailed” her arms, inflicting a small scratch on one of Fowler’s hands that tore open an old scab.

As a result of this “altercation” with a woman whom he outweighed by about 100 pounds, Fowler spent a week on paid medical leave, according to Donohue’s report.

“Nobody had said anything to me about the earlier case until after the incident with the Ridgefield officers,” Tasca pointed out to me. Her refusal to gang-tackle a tiny, confused woman in a hospital, coupled with her active intervention to stop a criminal assault on an unarmed, mentally unbalanced man who was not a criminal suspect, supposedly established a “pattern” of behavior that made Tasca a danger to her fellow officers.

The “good old boy” cop suffers a scratch on his hand and gets a week off with pay, while Tasca gets fired and worse. This is what happens when good officers don’t go along:

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[polksaladallie]

In Queensland, they either get sucked into the culture or they leave.

[2106greencat]

joanie,

I appreciate what you are doing, bringing attention to all this, but really it still boils down to different countries and our way of life mate.

Both my kids are cops, in Australia, one Federal and one State (Qld), and I have the utmost respect for them and their kind.

There are good and bad in all walks of life, and it saddens me to think that the actions of the few can cause people to judge the entire force as bad.

Think of it like this - an individual of a certain race commits murder, does that reflect on the entire race - according to other threads here, MOST certainly NOT!  and I agree......you can't jusdge the majority by the minority.

So how can an idividuals action reflect on the entire profession?

I understand in USA things are different, but in saying that I hope you understand that I can not really get on board with  all this, when I have no idea what it is like over there, infact none of us know what it is like over there.

All I know, is I would rather live in a country that has a police force, than on e that did not.

The last thread went to hell in a hand basket because different laws, governments, amendments, countries, and individuals disagree on many things, I can can only go by what I see and what I have experienced in the country in which I live in, and basically, this kind of thread is just inflaming any arguments that have been put to rest for now.

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[aps1080]

Soft

The same as happened to the good cops during the Joh era in Qld.

[2106greencat]

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@aps1080 wrote:
Soft

The same as happened to the good cops during the Joh era in Qld.

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and I doubt joanie will know anything about that............which is, actually, the point I have been trying to make......until you live in the respective country how can you possibly form a valid opinion of what really, (not media BS) goes on in that country?

[lionrose.7]

All the good cops are here in my little town.

Local cop saved a lady from a burning house.

He is a really nice cop and man.

[*pepe]

I have the utmost respect and gratitude to the police who do their job properly too, but the reality is as you say there are good and bad, too often the bad is hidden under a cloak of protection and the public are not aware.

I think its great that the modern age of surveillance cameras and citizens filming anything and everything is bringing it to light.

Shutting down open discussion is just another way of covering it up.

The bad seeds need to be exposed and shown to be held accountable so people can have faith in their police force and give the support and respect the good ones deserve.

[aps1080]

I think its great that the modern age of surveillance cameras and citizens filming anything and everything is bringing it to light.


Pepe
Re the one in sydney, initially it looked bad, until it was explained what she had done.

You need to subdue them quickly, the longer it goes on, the more chance someone will get hurt.

[*pepe]

i am more talking about the ones where the official reports and video footage don't match up.

[softail-joanie]

Going by what I see in other areas, and the horrors I have personally suffered here in my own neck of the woods, I have to wonder if there can be good cops, good people who want to do the right thing but can't from behind that badge. Sometimes when i'm being beaten or stomped down on the ground, I see other cops off to the side who seem like they aren't having any fun, but never dare to put a stop to it, maybe they blurt out something like "did you have to do that" or they notice that i'm not resisting.

After ripping off all my clothing and throwing me into a holding cell, couple hours go by and a guard would bring me a blanket, five more minutes would pass and another guard would come along and take the blanket away giving me nothing to cover with. If you can imagine being completly nude in a 8x8 foot cement box with a steel bench and a steel toilet for days. thats enough of that, back to the topic at hand,

I don't just want to find a way to get this lady her job back, I want to find more like her and start public demand that they be hired all over, espesally in areas near me. I've needed a cop like her more times than I can count to pull those goons from the franklin county sheriffs department off of me. I wouldn't expect someone just off the street to do it, they would go to prison for life. I don't have any video of what they did to me, but if you watch the Kelly Thomas video, that comes close to what happened in 2008 after they had me follow them to their car out by the road. They didn't even arrest me then, not offically into jail, what they did to cover for the beating was take me to a state run place called netcare and pinkslip me in there for a week saying I did all of that to myself. But hey it's the police, who's gonna argue with them? I must have did it to myself. "not such a tough guy now am I" thats what the one in charge said. I hear that still sometimes.