on 04-09-2020 02:32 PM
A white man who stopped the AFL using the Aboriginal Flag in the code's Indigenous Round was once fined $2 million for selling 'authentic' didgeridoos and boomerangs - that were actually made in Indonesia.
A picture shows Ben Wooster and business partner Semele Moore smiling happily with the flag's original designer Harold Thomas after their company, WAM Clothing, was given copyright license to the iconic symbol in 2018.
Mr Thomas designed the famous flag in 1971 - and in 1997 won a High Court battle to become the sole copyright owner - but in 2018 signed over clothing license rights to WAM Clothing.
This means WAM Clothing collects fees from its use, and then passes a portion of the money back to the Mr Thomas.
It also means that without the consent of Mr Wooster and Ms Moore, the flag cannot be used on clothing or in any media.
The AFL this week announced it wouldn't be using the most obvious and famous symbol of Aboriginal Australia as part of its Indigenous Round because they had been unable to secure a deal with the co-owners.
Mr Wooster is a disgraced businessman whose former company was fined $2.3m for claiming art was Aboriginal when it was actually made in Indonesia, while Ms Moore was a paralegal at a leading Brisbane law firm before founding WAM Clothing.
That's so Australia for you. Sell everything, resources, intellectual property, land, water, utilities... anything for a quick quid!
on 05-09-2020 07:55 PM
Seems to me that ochre has more general aboriginal cultural relevance than red colour as is used extensively in body paint for ceremonies , although the colour red must have some significance, so replacing red with ochre should eliminate the copyright issues and general angst yet retain cultural relevance , but the current flag is highly regarded and who i am I comment except that i choose to.
no copy right here
on 05-09-2020 07:58 PM
RED - you forgot - blood.
on 05-09-2020 08:24 PM
@davewil1964 wrote:Obvious difference.
To me at least. I have no idea how your eyesight is.
As you in your usual forum master manner has made the subject personal I shall reply : For some maybe just first impression.
Similar to when an aboriginal affiliated guy that was exuberantly making himself acquainted with me casting admiring glances at the bold shoulder patch of my cold weather army surplus jacket - until it was mentioned that particular tri-colour pattern was Germany not Aboriginal , but who cares ?
on 05-09-2020 08:32 PM
on 05-09-2020 08:39 PM
@rogespeed wrote:
@domino-710 wrote:RED - you forgot - blood.
happy now ?
on 05-09-2020 08:44 PM
@icyfroth wrote:
A white man who stopped the AFL using the Aboriginal Flag in the code's Indigenous Round was once fined $2 million for selling 'authentic' didgeridoos and boomerangs - that were actually made in Indonesia.
A picture shows Ben Wooster and business partner Semele Moore smiling happily with the flag's original designer Harold Thomas after their company, WAM Clothing, was given copyright license to the iconic symbol in 2018.
Mr Thomas designed the famous flag in 1971 - and in 1997 won a High Court battle to become the sole copyright owner - but in 2018 signed over clothing license rights to WAM Clothing.
This means WAM Clothing collects fees from its use, and then passes a portion of the money back to the Mr Thomas.
It also means that without the consent of Mr Wooster and Ms Moore, the flag cannot be used on clothing or in any media.
The AFL this week announced it wouldn't be using the most obvious and famous symbol of Aboriginal Australia as part of its Indigenous Round because they had been unable to secure a deal with the co-owners.
Mr Wooster is a disgraced businessman whose former company was fined $2.3m for claiming art was Aboriginal when it was actually made in Indonesia, while Ms Moore was a paralegal at a leading Brisbane law firm before founding WAM Clothing.
That's so Australia for you. Sell everything, resources, intellectual property, land, water, utilities... anything for a quick quid!
To me is just so sad that a symbol that is well regarded as a cultural identity icon has become mired in controversy of a commercial nature
on 05-09-2020 08:53 PM
To me it is sad that you have adulterated the Aboriginal flag to fail to make your point.
on 05-09-2020 11:34 PM
@davewil1964 wrote:To me it is sad that you have adulterated the Aboriginal flag to fail to make your point.
Is none to worry and never was - you can sleep well now