Why are the Labor/Lefties so concerned about Indonesia?

[nero_bolt]

Why are the Labor/Lefties so concerned about Indonesia?

They seem obsessed about Indonesia

They seem to think that we in Australia should bow down to Indonesia

They seem to think that we all should be at Indonesia's mercy 

Indonesia doesnt have the concerns about us like the lefties do about Indonesia

The left keep on and on and on and on about Indonesia and what we should do and how we should do it etc

So again the question... Why are the Labor/Lefties so concerned about Indonesia?

Me I couldnt care less this is Australia not Indonesia and we should worry about ourselves and look after our country and people and not Indonesia 

So again the question... Why are the Labor/Lefties so concerned about Indonesia?    (Or is that obsessed)

Maybe as they are so concerned and Australia is so evil to Indonesia all the lefties should move there as they would from all the posts on here be far happier living there than in evil Australia.....

[boris1gary]

Will nilly structures? is there a link to that? Or am I just believing you said that when really you meant something else?

[margomeoz]

Poddy it does not mean because they had a visa they are entitled to overstay that visa nor is Indonesia entitled to have them back if they leave by boat.

If they head to Australia that should be our problem to solve, we don't have the right to send them back to Indonesia.

[*crikey*mate*]

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@donnashuggy wrote:

Fake passports still exist too

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True, I didn't thiunk of that.

Now, scared to enter another discussion about asylum seekers, but will give it a try. Trying to be general, not politicallly biased.

The prospect that an applicant may have or have had a false passport somewhere along their journey, has to be considered, doesn't it?

I know that no applicant who has arrived in Australia by boat has ever been connected to terrorism, but I think we have to consider the possibility that one day it could happen, don't we? We have to be sure, don't we?

Even without that extreme thought, don't we also want to be sure that we are not allowing entry to a person who has committed other socially unacceptable offences? Offences such as **bleep** or pedophillia, murder etc?

I know that we have such offenders in our own society, and they are our responsibility, but if we "let any extras in" and they reoffended, that wouldn't be so good, would it?

Don't we have to know if there are any potential risks?

Additionally, even white collar crime, don't we want to make sure that we are not providing refuge to someone who is simply trying to escape conviction/incarceration for a crime such as tax evasion, money laundering, fraud etc in their own society?

Isn't that why people in the US used to head to mexico? so they couldn't be held accountable?

[*crikey*mate*]

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@margomeoz wrote:

Poddy it does not mean because they had a visa they are entitled to overstay that visa nor is Indonesia entitled to have them back if they leave by boat.

If they head to Australia that should be our problem to solve, we don't have the right to send them back to Indonesia.

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What do we do with other applicants whose requests have been denied?

Don't we send themm back to their last known point of origin?

Isn't this as simple as we have said we will deny approval to people who arrive by boat, so as their "applicatuion" is denied, we send them back to their known point of origin?

And I thought the fiocus rose around those who arrive by boat as the boats they were using were unsafe and potentially fatal, so the focus went there, rather than to those who sought other methods of arrival, for the purposes of their safety, for the purposes of discouraging them from taking further risks to their lives when there are safer options available.

[gewens]

Greetings, everyone. Remember to talk courteously and don't take things personally when others don't agree with you. Healthy debate is welcomed while interpersonal dispute is not allowed.  Thanks. 🙂

[silverfaun]

Hello, didnt Nicola Roxon resign?? you know the one who thought and tried to nanny the whole of Australia as if they were not capable of adult thinking.

The one who tried to make it illegal to offend and to take away the presumption of innonence. ...Just asking.

[poddster]

I can categorically and emphatically confirm that Nicola Roxon did in deed resign 🙂

[jethro_woolfe]

Roxon is a Hero , we have the best tobbacco laws in the world. there is some concern this government could water the laws down, being somewhat captive to tobbacco companies historically.

[silverfaun]

[jethro_woolfe]

There's no need for the embarrassed laughing face thing, its to the governments shame not yours unless you turn a blind eye.