on 17-01-2014 08:08 AM
The leftties are obsessed with boats and they want Australia to be an open border that is over run with boats and ILLEGAL imigrants it seems as seen on here on a daily basis from the left and far left leaning people.
WHY is that...
Why do the left want more and more of these people invading our country?
Why do the lefties want more and more boats coming?
Why do the left want more people drowing at sea?
Seems rather odd to me that the left have so little regard for our borders and laws and want open flood gates on boat people invading our country.
WHY?
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on 17-01-2014 07:28 PM
Try flying to anyother country, destroying your passport and all documentation regarding your identification and see how you are welcomed 🙂
Bubba might welcome you in the clink 😉
on 17-01-2014 07:28 PM
Why do you care? The ALP lost the last election, we are reminded of this daily, why the continual questions about what you consider the "left" think. Why not tell us all about some of the other "great and wonderful" things that the Government of the day is doing?
on 17-01-2014 07:34 PM
Hello petal.
on 17-01-2014 07:52 PM
on 17-01-2014 08:08 PM
I dont care for the criminal people traffickers and their clients are complicit in the criminality of paying a smuggler to ferry you to a country but not before you have shelled out 10 to 15,ooo dollars and destroyed all your important identity papers.
Seeking asylum?? If that is the case 1st country comes into play. Country shopping for the best free health and welfare?? that is what is being played.
on 17-01-2014 10:28 PM
Why the anger and distress about what another group of posters might be thinking?
I am sure, if they needed to, they would post a thread themselves about it, wouldn't they?
on 17-01-2014 10:35 PM
Well I didn't realise that feeling empathy for people suffering had a 'side'.
But hey, I am happy to be lumped in with anyone who cares for their fellow human beings.
on 17-01-2014 10:41 PM
@donnashuggy wrote:
"I believe there is a special obligation on Australians who have come or whose parents have come here in the post-war years, to work for and maintain that Australia, because that is the Australia they came to, that is the Australia that received them so warmly and that is the Australia to which they have already contributed so much in so many different ways."MALCOLM FRASER, on asylum seekers "Most asylum seekers do get permanent visas, so the earlier they receive the appropriate help, the faster they will become part of the community. They'll get jobs and start paying taxes too. They will see Australia as a nation with a sense of care and concern. That's so important for a cohesive society. It helps build a sense of belonging. And in terms of common decency, it's what should be happening... For God's sake, this is Australia, people should be treated with decency and humanity."MALCOLM FRASER, on asylum seekers "If a need for a sense of independence is important for Australia, there is a need to our politicians in Canberra to start to kill the view that we are a racist nation. At heart, I don't believe the great majority of Australians are racist, but the government has behaved as though we are. The government has really demeaned us, not just the government, but the government and the opposition, the political process. Both sides of the equation have really done Australia an enormous disservice."MALCOLM FRASER, on asylum seekers "Many who fled from Eastern Europe or the Soviet Union in the postwar years would have had to pay people for some part of their journey which ultimately led them to Australia. What has been forgotten in this debate is that desperate people will go to any lengths to get to a country that they believe to be safe and that they know will give them, and more particularly their children, a future."MALCOLM FRASER, on asylum seekers "At the moment people get on boats because they flee terror at home and believe the many years' long wait in UNHCR camps is not a valid option, especially if they have children in their care. After the Vietnam War, Australia took a larger humanitarian intake than at any other period in our history. The Australian community accepted that. They were told why we needed to do it, and why it was the only ethical decent policy that a wealthy advanced country should adopt."MALCOLM FRASER, on asylum seekers "A strong multicultural Australia that draws strength from its diversity, that debates real issues of importance to ourselves and to common humanity, has contributed so much in the past. It must do so again. The pettiness and meanness of the current debates about asylum seekers and indeed on other issues that are dealt with on a totally partisan basis must be put aside. There is a special obligation on our political leaders to lift themselves off the bottom and take the debate in a different direction - based on fact not hyperbole, based on humanitarian rather than punitive considerations; to rejoin the bipartisanship that will be needed to make meaningful contributions to such complex global challenges. We should also ask ourselves what we as Australians need to do so that politicians will learn to appeal to the best of our natures and cease playing politics with the lives of vulnerable people."MALCOLM FRASER, on asylum seekers "There are alternative policies available to Australian governments. They have not taken them because neither party is willing to lift substantially the humanitarian intake... Meanwhile our political leaders continue to demean Australia, to portray us as a narrow, wealthy, selfish community by debates they conduct between themselves. Thinking that this is only an Australian matter of no consequence to anyone else is false. It certainly affects the way other countries view Australia. Our policies set Australia apart from our own region and apart from the world at large. The Australian people deserve much better. Hopefully, one day our politicians will treat the Australian community with respect, instead of the contempt they show with their judgement of Australians."MALCOLM FRASER, on asylum seekers "The debate went on, playing politics with people's lives. To me, that is about as low as you can go."MALCOLM FRASER, on asylum seekers "The asylum-seeker debate in Australia is demeaning and miserable. The politicians who participate in it have contempt for the Australian people. They believe, despite all evidence to the contrary, that if they appeal to the fearful and mean sides of our nature, they will win support. They are showing that they believe we won't know enough about the world to know that for the most part what they are saying is plainly false. Australia should not seek to avoid its obligations."MALCOLM FRASER, on asylum seekers
Donna, the human traffickers DO NOT do any criminal record checks on asylum seekers. They don't care what kind of criminal record the people have. There are many reasons why the government need to assess and ASIO check every person entering Australia. We don't want terrorists, suicide bombers, pedophiles, murderers, rapists. The traffickers don't care, they will bring anyone here.
Only a resourced government department like our Border Protection agency can do proper checks. Our government need to decide who is eligible for entry not the human traffickers.
Any person, from overseas can apply here http://www.immi.gov.au/Services/Pages/online-services.aspx
on 17-01-2014 10:44 PM
So fine. We process them and determine their status. It's as simple as that.
And of course we know (because it has been widely reported) that most refuges are eventually acepted. So there can't be too many criminals anyway.
on 17-01-2014 10:45 PM
Does your empathy extend to those who are in camps that use proper channels for immigration, you know, the ones who have gone about it in a legal fashion, the ones who have to wait because of the unlawful cue jumpers, the ones with the money and lack of morality who line the pockets of criminals to get an advantage.