Why is there a debate about Abortion?

Whether you're Pro-choice or Anti-choice. Both sides agree you cannot force someone to donate their body whether you believe a foetus is a human being or not. Doesn't the debate just end there?

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Why is there a debate about Abortion?

I think that the topic was posted to stir-the-pot ; a hit-and-run expedition. Abortion happens, has to be legal, has to be readily available and has stuff all to do with anyone other than those involved.

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Why is there a debate about Abortion?


@polksaladallie wrote:

Your toenails are dead.


but Bob said 'any human cells'.

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@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:

@polksaladallie wrote:

Your toenails are dead.


but Bob said 'any human cells'.


Well, that's essentially correct what I said. Your ignorance isn't evidence for facts. 

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@the_bob_delusion wrote:

@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:

@polksaladallie wrote:

Your toenails are dead.


but Bob said 'any human cells'.


Well, that's essentially correct what I said. Your ignorance isn't evidence for facts. 


MY ignorance? 

 

OK, let's leave out toenails. Which other human cells result in a human life - other than a fertilized human egg?

 

What you also said previously is that 'sperm contains all that is necessary for life' {paraphrased}.

 

I would say that statement shows a tad of  ignorance too - unless of couse you know something science does not. Putting it bluntly, fill up a 44-gallon drum with human sperm - what human life results? Like it not Bob, we need those woman out there and it's about time you realised / admitted it.

 

 

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@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:

@the_bob_delusion wrote:

@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:

@polksaladallie wrote:

Your toenails are dead.


but Bob said 'any human cells'.


Well, that's essentially correct what I said. Your ignorance isn't evidence for facts. 


MY ignorance? 

 

OK, let's leave out toenails. Which other human cells result in a human life - other than a fertilized human egg?

 

What you also said previously is that 'sperm contains all that is necessary for life' {paraphrased}.

 

I would say that statement shows a tad of  ignorance too - unless of couse you know something science does not. Putting it bluntly, fill up a 44-gallon drum with human sperm - what human life results? Like it not Bob, we need those woman out there and it's about time you realised / admitted it.

 

 


Your argument is a bunch of cells is a human, so I used that same argument back against you. Human cells can also make a potential human. Therefore you're causing abortions everytime you wash or sneeze. 

So you're admit that women are important. I agree. Therefore don't you think they deserve the right to do what they want with their body?

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@the_bob_delusion wrote:

@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:

@the_bob_delusion wrote:

@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:

@polksaladallie wrote:

Your toenails are dead.


but Bob said 'any human cells'.


Well, that's essentially correct what I said. Your ignorance isn't evidence for facts. 


MY ignorance? 

 

OK, let's leave out toenails. Which other human cells result in a human life - other than a fertilized human egg?

 

What you also said previously is that 'sperm contains all that is necessary for life' {paraphrased}.

 

I would say that statement shows a tad of  ignorance too - unless of couse you know something science does not. Putting it bluntly, fill up a 44-gallon drum with human sperm - what human life results? Like it not Bob, we need those woman out there and it's about time you realised / admitted it.

 

 


Your argument is a bunch of cells is a human, {no, I said an embryo is a human - you called it a bunch of cells} so I used that same argument back against you. Human cells can also make a potential human. Therefore you're causing abortions everytime you wash or sneeze.

 

I think your parents failed you Bob - sneezing on a lady does not make them pregnant, nor does kissing them - I think there is more to it than that. 

 

 

So you're admit that women are important. I agree. Therefore don't you think they deserve the right to do what they want with their body?

 

Women have every right to do what they want with their body - as long as it's ONLY their body that we are talking about. eg a woman has the right to blow themselves up if that's what they wish, but they don't have the right to take anyone else with them - that would be called murder or even mass murder. You may have read about a few of those suicide bombers - admittedly mostly men but some women to?


 

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@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:

@the_bob_delusion wrote:

@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:

@the_bob_delusion wrote:

@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:

@polksaladallie wrote:

Your toenails are dead.


but Bob said 'any human cells'.


Well, that's essentially correct what I said. Your ignorance isn't evidence for facts. 


MY ignorance? 

 

OK, let's leave out toenails. Which other human cells result in a human life - other than a fertilized human egg?

 

What you also said previously is that 'sperm contains all that is necessary for life' {paraphrased}.

 

I would say that statement shows a tad of  ignorance too - unless of couse you know something science does not. Putting it bluntly, fill up a 44-gallon drum with human sperm - what human life results? Like it not Bob, we need those woman out there and it's about time you realised / admitted it.

 

 


Your argument is a bunch of cells is a human, {no, I said an embryo is a human - you called it a bunch of cells} so I used that same argument back against you. Human cells can also make a potential human. Therefore you're causing abortions everytime you wash or sneeze.

 

I think your parents failed you Bob - sneezing on a lady does not make them pregnant, nor does kissing them - I think there is more to it than that. 

 

 

So you're admit that women are important. I agree. Therefore don't you think they deserve the right to do what they want with their body?

 

Women have every right to do what they want with their body - as long as it's ONLY their body that we are talking about. eg a woman has the right to blow themselves up if that's what they wish, but they don't have the right to take anyone else with them - that would be called murder or even mass murder. You may have read about a few of those suicide bombers - admittedly mostly men but some women to?


 


So you agree with me that an Embryo is a bunch of cells but you call it a "human". By that reasoning, other bunch of human cells are also humans because you can make a human from those. Do you not get I'm using your own arguments against you. 

 

So let me use the same argument as OP. Do you agree with me it's wrong to force anyone to donate their body part to someone else? 

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@the_bob_delusion wrote:

@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:

@the_bob_delusion wrote:

@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:

@the_bob_delusion wrote:

@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:

@polksaladallie wrote:

Your toenails are dead.


but Bob said 'any human cells'.


Well, that's essentially correct what I said. Your ignorance isn't evidence for facts. 


MY ignorance? 

 

OK, let's leave out toenails. Which other human cells result in a human life - other than a fertilized human egg?

 

What you also said previously is that 'sperm contains all that is necessary for life' {paraphrased}.

 

I would say that statement shows a tad of  ignorance too - unless of couse you know something science does not. Putting it bluntly, fill up a 44-gallon drum with human sperm - what human life results? Like it not Bob, we need those woman out there and it's about time you realised / admitted it.

 

 


Your argument is a bunch of cells is a human, {no, I said an embryo is a human - you called it a bunch of cells} so I used that same argument back against you. Human cells can also make a potential human. Therefore you're causing abortions everytime you wash or sneeze.

 

I think your parents failed you Bob - sneezing on a lady does not make them pregnant, nor does kissing them - I think there is more to it than that. 

 

 

So you're admit that women are important. I agree. Therefore don't you think they deserve the right to do what they want with their body?

 

Women have every right to do what they want with their body - as long as it's ONLY their body that we are talking about. eg a woman has the right to blow themselves up if that's what they wish, but they don't have the right to take anyone else with them - that would be called murder or even mass murder. You may have read about a few of those suicide bombers - admittedly mostly men but some women to?


 


So you agree with me that an Embryo is a bunch of cells but you call it a "human". By that reasoning, other bunch of human cells are also humans because you can make a human from those. Do you not get I'm using your own arguments against you. 

 

So let me use the same argument as OP. Do you agree with me it's wrong to force anyone to donate their body part to someone else? 



 Bob:"an Embryo is a bunch of cells but you call it a "human". By that reasoning, other bunch of human cells are also humans because you can make a human from those".

 

Once again, what other human cells can you make a human out of except that bunch of cells represented by a fertilized human egg. You are talking in circles.

 

"donate their body parts to someone else" - that would be after you're dead I presume? No, it's done all the time, but there is no force involved - well, except in China maybe.

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"donate their body parts to someone else" - that would be after you're dead I presume? No, it's done all the time, but there is no force involved -

 

Not really after you're dead.  Too late then.  Brain dead perhaps.

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@polksaladallie wrote:

 

 

"donate their body parts to someone else" - that would be after you're dead I presume? No, it's done all the time, but there is no force involved -

 

Not really after you're dead.  Too late then.  Brain dead perhaps.

 

 

So, they take your organs away before you are dead? I didn't know that. Cross me off the donar registry please.

 

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