on โ25-08-2013 01:21 PM
A WOMAN is in hospital after a group of up to nine people beat her until she was unconscious on a full Melbourne bus.
The 26-year-old St Kilda woman complained to the driver after the rowdy group boarded the bus in the city, because they were being boisterous and knocking into other passengers.
After she complained, one of the women in the group threw a drink over the St Kilda woman then punched her in the face, police say.
Other group members then dragged the woman to the ground where they punched and kicked her body and head until she was unconscious.
Several other people had also complained to the driver about the group, which was standing in the aisle because the bus was full.
The group fled after the bus driver opened the door on Swanston Street.
The victim was treated at the scene and taken to hospital for treatment where she is in a stable condition.
Police say the group of six or seven males and two females boarded the NightRider in the city about 2.30am (AEST) on Sunday morning and are perceived to be of African appearance.
They will review CCTV as part of their investigation.
on โ25-08-2013 05:04 PM
It is your choice TS to disagree, but my husband worked the night rider shifts as well as the night shifts on regular routes, that is all he did for a number of yrs, so he would know what he as a driver was suppose to do.
Why would the driver feel he was putting the other passengers at risk, by contacting the bus depot for help?
on โ25-08-2013 05:08 PM
If you have a gang threatening to do this and that if you contacted anyone what would you do? Put the safety of the passengers first?
We don't know if he did or didn't. That is my point.
on โ25-08-2013 05:14 PM
No we dont know & probably never will.
I doubt that any bus driver that does the night shift, would put themselves or their passengers in situations where more would get hurt. The logical thing is to have the police meet the bus at a bus stop.
The drivers are not permitted to leave their seats, so what could a bus driver do to stop the trouble, the only thing he can, ring for help.
on โ25-08-2013 05:17 PM
TS have you ever been on a bus full of drunks and people out to cause trouble?
I have, and it is not a good situation to be in, and I and other passengers were so very glad, that the driver rang for help........that didnt happen in Melbourne, it was in Sydney, many yrs. ago.
Passengers want the driver to protect them, and he can only do that, with what the bus depot tells him the rules are.
I am off to do other things now.
on โ25-08-2013 05:43 PM
A driver who did not stop and offer assistance to an injured passenger could well face a criminal charge / law suit.
No I have not been in that situataion but my youngest was on a Night Rider once only. Young girl scared of getting off at the station drop off point by herself as there was a group of drunken young men also doing the same. She begged the driver to call her father who was supposed to collect her but must have been held up. The driver refused. My son who collected his sister drove the girl home from the next stop. Now had that young girl come to harm the driver of that bus would have had to bare some responsibilty for not ensuring her safety.
We just don't know do we? IMO
on โ25-08-2013 06:17 PM
TS, no we dont know.
The bus driver in your daughters situation did the wrong thing, not all bus drivers do the right thing, same as with any occupation, you have the ones that believe in doing the right thing, and those that dont.
After all the things that my husband has told me and other bus drivers of the things that happen on buses, particularly at night, I would never catch a bus at night.
Night rider buses have a phone and they can ring for a taxi or someone to meet the bus for people, that is what is suppose to be done and is done, by those drivers that care.
โ25-08-2013 06:48 PM - edited โ25-08-2013 06:49 PM
@purple_haize wrote:No we dont know & probably never will.
I doubt that any bus driver that does the night shift, would put themselves or their passengers in situations where more would get hurt. The logical thing is to have the police meet the bus at a bus stop.
The drivers are not permitted to leave their seats, so what could a bus driver do to stop the trouble, the only thing he can, ring for help.
That not leaving the seat is BS a local driver here who was being punch in the head as he drove stopped his bus got up and smacked the guy back and throw him of the bus, he was sacked for doing that
on โ25-08-2013 06:56 PM
@the_hawk* wrote:
@purple_haize wrote:No we dont know & probably never will.
I doubt that any bus driver that does the night shift, would put themselves or their passengers in situations where more would get hurt. The logical thing is to have the police meet the bus at a bus stop.
The drivers are not permitted to leave their seats, so what could a bus driver do to stop the trouble, the only thing he can, ring for help.
That not leaving the seat is BS a local driver here who was being punch in the head as he drove stopped his bus got up and smacked the guy back and throw him of the bus, he was sacked for doing that
The law for bus drivers in Vic. is they cannot leave their seats..........
They cannot help women on with prams , they cannot help the elderly all because they cannot leave their seats...........if you dont believe me ring the biggest bus company in Vic. starts with a V...........where my husband works...........
@the_hawk* wrote:
@purple_haize wrote:No we dont know & probably never will.
I doubt that any bus driver that does the night shift, would put themselves or their passengers in situations where more would get hurt. The logical thing is to have the police meet the bus at a bus stop.
The drivers are not permitted to leave their seats, so what could a bus driver do to stop the trouble, the only thing he can, ring for help.
That not leaving the seat is BS a local driver here who was being punch in the head as he drove stopped his bus got up and smacked the guy back and throw him of the bus, he was sacked for doing that
Hawk, you are in Sth. Aust. we are in Victoria. bus drivers are not allowed to leave there seats, unless they are at the end of their run, or they finish work...........that is the law in Victoria.
My husband drives for Ven......the biggest private bus company here, dont believe me, ring them up.
on โ25-08-2013 06:57 PM
dont know what happened there........but you can work it out Hawk
on โ25-08-2013 07:06 PM
Mate,
I am purple_haize husband, what she says it right, we are not allowed to leave our seats while on a shift. We are in Melbourne and all the bus companies are privatised, I dont know what you have in Adelaide.
We are not allowed to help anyone on the bus, or get up and talk to unruly people or school kids, they made it law here.
Regarding the night rider bus, I have worked that many times, had a few problems, but the night depot master is always there, one ring away if there is any trouble.
My wife was only helping a fellow poster, and what she said is true, as I was giving her the information that she needed. I dont think your remark of what she said, was reason for your comment, of bs.