hoarder loses bid to stay in Housing Trust home

[davidc4430]

Adelaide Hills hoarder loses bid to stay in Housing Trust home after failing to clean it

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-03-29/woman-kicked-out-of-adelaide-hills-housing-trust-home/1091944...

people who do this obviously have a mental issue, so when detected why are they allowed to carry on doing time after time.

its not good for them and it ruins a housing trust house.

once a person is found with this problem they should be inspected monthly and if found to be reofending put into a care.

living in a home full of built up shyte is not ok.

[tasfleur]

I do agree that the tenant has to be put out of the house, but in the report, it says that she was also to "remove the asbestos eaves".  Why would she have to do that?   I may be wrong, but I thought houses were built with those eaves when constructed, so I'm wondering why that would be her responsibility as a tenant?

[springyzone]

The report makes me shake my head about authorities.

They say they 'encouraged the woman to clean up' and she was 'ordered to clear the backyard etc'.

Hoarding on that scale is a mental issue and quite frankly, I doubt if the woman would have known where to start, even if she had wanted to.

What they needed to do was get legal permission to go in and do the cleaning up themselves. They will probably need heavy machinery to clear & grade that backyard. It's beyond the woman's capabilities.

It should never have been let go to this stage, it is a waste of what was a perfectly good home.

The woman is never going to change. She should never get a property again. I think some sort of care is probably called for, but governments seem to think everyone can cope on their own. Some people just can't.

[bright.ton42]

I agree that  it  is a mental issue and that she needs help.   Not a court ruling, poor thing.  .  What will happen to her.   

[davidc4430]

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@bright.ton42 wrote:

I agree that  it  is a mental issue and that she needs help.   Not a court ruling, poor thing.  .  What will happen to her.   

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thats my view, she requires medical help, as do all the others who 'hoard' themselves out of a home.

its the others who just plain dont care about the free house they get and gradually destroy it, then get moved to another to do it again i have no time for. those people should get 1 go, screw it up and out ya go.

as for the 'asbestos removal', as its a govt owned property if there is asbestos its the govts job to fix it.

but looking at the pictures i doubt the house is repairable, prolly cheaper to knock it down and build new.

the govt needs a kick up the pants for allowing homes to deterorate so badly. it shouldnt take years to find a problem and sort it out.

i bet her neighbours complained many times before anyone even came to see it.

[*kazumi*]

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@davidc4430 wrote:

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@bright.ton42 wrote:

I agree that  it  is a mental issue and that she needs help.   Not a court ruling, poor thing.  .  What will happen to her.   

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as for the 'asbestos removal', as its a govt owned property if there is asbestos its the govts job to fix it.

but looking at the pictures i doubt the house is repairable, prolly cheaper to knock it down and build new.

 

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Unless she attached/had attached the asbestos there

[zanadoo_56]

I'm not a hoarder (though a few poeple think otherwise!) but I am a collector. 

I am house bound and buy everything online and packaging is a big issue.  If anytihng can be sent in a bigger box than needed that's what the customer will get.  Sigh.  I also use a walking frame and I need help to move heavy items I want to get rid of.  I've had so much cardboard, wrapping, bubble wrap etc cluttering up places that I spent time sorting into boxes for recycling....and then found the boxes were too heavy for me to move.  It was so frustrating.

Sometimes you don't know where to start even if you are keen to get rid of things.  I have one room with far too much stuff in it (things were piled in by someone else while I was in hospital), that though I have made a start, I'm hampered by the fact that the room is like one of those old plastic toys where you move pieces around to put them in order with only one blank square space.  If I shift items to get at others that have to go if I'm not careful I end up with not enough room for the walker and I can't get out. 🙂

Still, with help I  did manage to stack a big load of stuff and phone a company to take it all away.  It was great.  Now that the space is free again, I will start on the next pile.  I got rid of a lot of packaging, video tapes, old papers and even some furniture but there's more that has to go.

The quest continues.

[lyndal1838]

I find it interesting that a court can order her to remove the asbestos from the eaves.

She has only lived in the house for 18 years and asbestos was banned before that so it must have been used when the house was built.

I also don't think it is legal to remove asbestos yourself....it has to be done by experts.  Even the renovation shows on TV leave asbestos removal to the experts.

[davidc4430]

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@lyndal1838 wrote:

I find it interesting that a court can order her to remove the asbestos from the eaves.

She has only lived in the house for 18 years and asbestos was banned before that so it must have been used when the house was built.

I also don't think it is legal to remove asbestos yourself....it has to be done by experts.  Even the renovation shows on TV leave asbestos removal to the experts.

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thats what i rekon, unless she has installed the asbestos which i find unlikely, the govt as owners of the property are responsible for the removal.

and nobody should be telling anyone to remove it themselves.

[springyzone]

I agree. Even if she put asbestos there, what planet are these courts or admin people living on if they are 'ordering her to remove it'.

She never cleaned the yard after a directive, she never cleared the piles of rubbish after being 'encouraged to'. Those directives worked well, didn't they!

She is in public housing & by the looks of it, not coping too well.

Do they think she will magically have enough money in the bank to arrange the responsible removal of asbestos?

Perhaps they have to go this road legally before they can then step in and get the order to do it themselves, it may be a 2 or 3 step process, I am not sure. That would be the only way I could see this court order being worth the paper it is written on.

The house may be better off demolished, as you say.