howard government knew about telstra pit asbestos, abbott refused to act

 


http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/labor-says-the-howard-government-knew-about-asbestos-in-te...


THE Howard coalition government was aware 12 years ago there was an asbestos problem in Telstra's pits and ducts, federal Labor says.
"The previous government knew all about it, and did nothing about it," cabinet minister Craig Emerson told Sky News this morning.


Telstra has been accused of cutting corners when handing over infrastructure to the national broadband network builder NBN Co after contractors and communities raised fears they had been exposed to the deadly material.


The Gillard government has been under pressure from the coalition to explain when and how much it knew about the asbestos problem at Telstra.


Fairfax Media says the giant telco wanted to create an independent body to accelerate compensation and sought approval from the Department of Workplace Relations in 2001.


However, the department, then under the ministerial leadership of Opposition Leader Tony Abbott, rejected the plan.


 
"He's the guy now complaining," Dr Emerson said.


"This is nothing more than a way of attacking the national broadband network by the coalition"


Earlier today, Industry Minister Greg Combet has issued a stern warning to Telstra over the issue.


Greg Combet, a former union heavyweight who pursued James Hardie over asbestos issues, said Telstra must do all it can to protect those affected by exposure to deadly asbestos in connection with the NBN.


"It is critical that it is done in mind with the greatest security for members of the community," Mr Combet told ABC Radio.


"We all know what is necessary and as you say I've got a lot of experience unfortunately with people being exposed to asbestos and by crikey they better do this job well."


Labor yesterday met with NBN co, Telstra and other stakeholders in Canberra to discuss the issue.


Workplace Minister Bill Shorten said a national taskforce would be set up to monitor exposure prevention and supervise contracting workers during the network rollout.


NBN sites have been shut down in several states after asbestos was disturbed in Telstra pits.


The issue dominated parliament yesterday and is expected to be a key topic in meetings of the Labor caucus and Coalition party room later today

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From the op:


 


Fairfax Media says the giant telco wanted to create an independent body to accelerate compensation and sought approval from the Department of Workplace Relations in 2001.


However, the department, then under the ministerial leadership of Opposition Leader Tony Abbott, rejected the plan.


 
"He's the guy now complaining," Dr Emerson said.


"This is nothing more than a way of attacking the national broadband network by the coalition"

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howard government knew about telstra pit asbestos, abbott refused to act

in other words, NBN is not the one to blame,    aye.  aye. 

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funny, the timin' for this problem 'discovery' to be made, in the final months of the lead-up to this election, by a character with the surname of o'farrell


 


a furphy, beat-up.   removal of pits-in-whole is the simple answer, 'ere. in an open-air environment, not a problem. 


 


 



 


Are you congenitally unable to speak any other way? If so my apologies, but it is very annoying. It comes across as an affectation, and interferes with the substance of your post.

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"abbott told parliament that under his government "pits and pipes "will not be touched" over last 500m,"      errr ...   oops !

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Mm why not just use your real ID?

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"THE Howard coalition government was aware 12 years ago there was an asbestos problem in Telstra's pits and ducts, federal Labor says."


Federal Labor says so it must be true!. Oh an ALP Cabinet Minister says so, it must be even truer.



But,but, what about the pits that have been around for many decades, and still in use, when Telstra was government controlled (ALP & Libs), or even before that when it was a total government entity (ALP & Libs) within the PMG Dept.?

"The Comcare boss said of the 30 asbestos-related issues in telecommunications pits incidents recorded since 1996, two-thirds had occurred this year, and almost half in the past six or so weeks."

And obviously the somewhat militant union (The Communications, Electrical and Plumbing Union) has not noticed a thing, or been "too scared" to do/say anything over many years apropos this overblown, and attempted diversionary topic?

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howard government knew about telstra pit asbestos, abbott refused to act

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


You know what they say when you make up assumptions.


 


 


All Nero can do is quote numbers like a football fan.
Shame the game is peoples lives, but then again we all know all about said user so it says allot.


 


Telstra receieved three letters in the last three years to replace them all as it would atleast be good for PR.


They look at it as something that would effect their costs, you know, doing the right thing?


 


As far as Abbot goes, we all know this guys opinion's on people sufferring from asbestos related diseases and who are dying.....they are just making it up for attention like bernie Banton was.


 


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjklT59clE4


 


You can quote staitistics all you like, funny thing is history nowdays is all recorded for people who choose to ignore it.

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howard government knew about telstra pit asbestos, abbott refused to act

The Liberal party at the time of the compo being rebuffed by Abbot owned 51% of Telstra were majority shareholders and could force not only tesltra to help anyone who got sick from being exposed, but also remove all pits, put them in asbestos bins and bury them.


 


He can repaint himself, choose to only take private interviews from  commercial breakfast programs, but he is still the guy who cares for nooone.

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Telstra and NBN have procedures for dealing with the asbestos.


They have been using water, as people have posted comments about them using water in some areas.


The people who specialise in such issues say the risk is exaggerated. 


One such professor spoke to Eleanor Hall on ABC.


 


 


ELEANOR HALL: That's the Trade Minister Craig Emerson speaking there on Sky.


 


Professor Bruce Armstrong is a public health specialist, who's been investigating asbestos related disease for decades and he says that in this instance, the dangers of asbestos contamination have been exaggerated.


 


Professor Armstrong told Eliza Harvey that he blames politicians and asbestos groups for failing to ease the concerns of affected residents.


 


ELIZA HARVEY: What do you see is the risk associated with the asbestos that we find bound within these concrete fibres?


 


BRUCE ARMSTRONG: It's very low. Provided it remains bound in the asbestos cement form then the risk from it is negligible.


 


ELIZA HARVEY: So therefore how should we be discussing this risk in light of this week's debate about the dangers of excavating the pits?


 


BRUCE ARMSTRONG: The hazard that was generated, to the extent that I know anything about exactly what happened, would have been to the workers knocking the asbestos around and not to people living nearby.


 


Those fibres, to the extent that they were present around the workers would be very rapidly diluted in a large volume of air and the probability that anyone else is exposed is going to be very low.


 


ELIZA HARVEY: Why do you think people are so fearful about the work that's taking place in these Telstra pits?


 


BRUCE ARMSTRONG: We've seen the difficulties that many men have experienced, Bernie Banton and others, and I think the community has not either been educated to or perhaps caught the difference between the circumstances in which those men were exposed and the circumstances around asbestos cement sheeting.


 


And I think that people are starting to attach to being even close to asbestos cement sheeting the same kind of hazard as men experienced in Hardie or Wittenoom, and this is just not the case. It is absolutely negligible.


 


ELIZA HARVEY: Do you think any groups have to take a bit more responsibility, be it diseases foundations or say unions, to actually temper some of the fear that we are hearing?


 


BRUCE ARMSTRONG: Well, let me say I think that some of the dialogue around asbestos hazard and particularly the removal of asbestos cement sheeting is generated by interests involved in the removal of asbestos because it's now a major industry and obviously is going to perhaps get a little bigger with these events around the Telstra pits.


 


I think that the asbestos diseases groups tend to not distinguish between the hazards of the asbestos in its natural form. They don't distinguish between the hazards associated with that and other really extremely low hazards associated with asbestos cement.


 


ELIZA HARVEY: What about Telstra? Do you think that the issue has been in many ways that people weren't warned and when they're not warned they feel like the risks could be huge because, you know, why aren't they telling us this information? Do you think that if it was dealt with more proactively from Telstra people may not necessarily be so fearful?


 


BRUCE ARMSTRONG: That, I mean, that's a very good question. I think in the present climate any reassurances about lack of hazard are to be treated very sceptically. The politicians are also beating this up. I don't believe it at the moment. We are getting an accurate representation of the size of the risk from the Government side.


 


They too are tending to portray it in a very negative light, this is a major problem, and not saying anything to reduce the risk that people might feel and obviously the Opposition has an interest in trying to make it look as black as possible.


 


ELIZA HARVEY: You're calling for some moderation from the leaders in this debate.


 


BRUCE ARMSTRONG: Absolutely. Facts and sensible dialogue.


 


 

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heard that interview


 


more, 'ere:  


 


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-06-04/expert-says-asbestos-threat-is-overstated/4733302


Asbestos threat from NBN rollout overstated, according to public health expert



A public health expert has downplayed fears that work on telecommunication pits could lead to harmful asbestos exposure among nearby residents.


Several sites in New South Wales, Victoria and Western Australia have been shut down because asbestos was disturbed during excavation works for the roll out of the National Broadband Network (NBN).


Authorities are investigating safety breaches and some concerned residents in the Sydney suburb of Penrith evacuated their homes.


But Professor Bruce Armstrong, who has been researching asbestos-related diseases for decades, says there is next to no danger for residents near the affected sites.


He says asbestos fibres are less dangerous when they are bound up in concrete sheeting.


"Provided it remains bound in the asbestos cement form, then the risk from it is negligible," he said.


"The hazard... would have been to the workers knocking the asbestos around and not to people living nearby."


Professor Armstrong says the public lacks education about the dangers of asbestos.


"We've seen the difficulties that many men have experienced - Bernie Banton and others - and I think the community has not either been educated to or perhaps caught the difference between the circumstances in which those men were exposed and the circumstances around asbestos cement sheeting," he said.



"I think that people are starting to attach to being even close to asbestos cement sheeting the same kind of hazard as men experienced in Hardie... and this is just not the case."


Message not welcomed by victim support groups
Asbestos victims groups say Professor Armstrong's commentary is not helpful.


Asbestos Diseases Foundation president Barry Robson says research shows it only takes one fibre to lodge in the chest to cause disease.


"Some experts say you need a lot of exposure, other experts say you only need the one," he said.


"We at the Asbestos Diseases Foundation, and I can say this on behalf of the other nine groups here in Australia, there is no safe level and one fibre can do the damage."


Both men agree that politics should be kept away from the debate.


 
"The politicians are also beating this up," Professor Armstrong said.


"They too are tending to portray it in a very negative light, that this is a major problem.


"Obviously the Opposition in trying to make it look as black as possible."


Mr Robson says MPs will be judged harshly if the political debate continues throughout the NBN rollout.


"These young families are going to have this worry for 30, 40 years hanging over their heads," he said.


Both men also say Telstra could allay community fears by talking directly to affected residents.

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