newspoll: rudd leads abbott. federal labor surge

[not_an_eloi]

Newspoll shows Labor and Coalition neck and neck after PM Kevin Rudd flags leadership vote reform
Updated 4 hours 9 minutes ago

 Federal Labor's popularity has risen since Kevin Rudd was reinstated as Prime Minister, according to the latest Newspoll out today.

The Newspoll published in The Australian newspaper has Labor and the Coalition locked in a dead heat with 50 per cent of the vote after preferences.

Labor's primary vote has risen to 38 per cent, while the Coalition's has dropped to 42 per cent.

Mr Rudd continues to lead in the preferred prime minister stakes, with 53 per cent compared to Opposition Leader Tony Abbott's 31.

The poll's margin of error is three percentage points.

The poll's publication comes after Mr Rudd announced he wants to give Labor Party members a say in deciding who leads the ALP.

Mr Rudd said he wanted to change the party's rules to make sure that a serving prime minister could not be cut down during their term in office - as happened to him and to the woman who replaced him, Julia Gillard.

"The mechanisms outlined in the proposed rule change prevent anyone from just wandering in one day or one night and saying "OK sunshine, it's over," Mr Rudd said.

He said the change would mean the leader would be elected jointly, with votes from party members given a 50 per cent weighting and the elected Labor Caucus making up the other 50 per cent.

The proposal, which Mr Rudd says is backed by Cabinet, will be discussed at a meeting of all Caucus members in a fortnight's time.

Mr Abbott has played down the threat Mr Rudd poses to him, but concedes he is very popular.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-07-09/poll-shows-labor-and-coalition-neck-and-neck/4807446

[poddster]

Some prefer to call a spade a spade and not a shovel or a digging implement. 🙂 

[monman12]

" There is really no need for any reference to matriarchs or sisters.  "

Why FN, this Board is a matriarchate one, and as such the topics/replies/posts tend to reflect the gender imbalance.

If you were honest with yourself, you would realise the ALP patriarchs elevated Gillard to PM  purely because of her gender and her  then perceived electoral advantage to them at that time. The move  failed and Gillard is now gone, and with her a sense of (resonating) unfairness by a proportion of females, including some here,  who possibly have some not so fond memories of gender discrimination.

Perhaps  you can suggest a generic term for the gender majority within CS, other than: Sisters, Matriarchs,  perhaps:  females, women, dowagers?

nɥºɾ

[poddster]

Coven?

[freakiness]

So you go to other boards talking about the brotherhood, calling people brothers and referring to them as patriachs?

I doubt it somehow.

[i-need-a-martini]

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@monman12 wrote:

Perhaps  you can suggest a generic term for the gender majority within CS, other than: Sisters, Matriarchs,  perhaps:  females, women, dowagers?

nɥºɾ

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Heres a novel idea - how about your refrain from any sexist remarks John?

Or I suppose I could find a suitable sexist tag for followers of the Liberal Party?

Let's see. If ALP followers are tagged in the feminine, then that must mean that LIberal Party supporters are tagged in the masculine. Unfortunately there are very few masculine sexist tags (funny that) so I would have to find a term that is generally regarded as a male tag.

How about Boofheads? I suppose that could be a suitable sexist collective for Liberal Party supporters.

[the_great_she_elephant]

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@monman12 wrote:

FN: "Sure proves the old boys sexist club rules."   ????????

Whilst that is also true of a matriarchal Board,  I  referred to "the general population" FN, indicating that they prefer Rudd to Gillard  as did the Caucus. Does that make them all "sexist"  or just some here, like the Matriarchs?

TGSE, do you prefer Matriarchs, or Sisters?

nɥºɾ

 John, there is no getting away from the fact that we live in a patriarchal society. The foundations of our business, legislative and cultural systems were devised by men  in a form which suited the male psyche and they are the models by which our society is still governed. .

While more and more women are becoming successful in public life they can only do so by adaptging their thinking to models which are not suited to their nasture. Maggie Thatcher was a prime example and I suspect the main reason Julia Gillard was seen to be a failure was becasue she tried to impose a female way of thinking on a patriarchal system.

A matriarchal society would function very differently. I'm not saying it would be better - just different - and I suspect men would find it equally as hard to succeed in such a system as women do in our present one..

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[poddster]

I have always thought is strange that it is mostly the feminine gender who support Labor. It has just dawned on me the reason could perhaps be attributed the fact that a lot of women have to endure labour and that impresses on them the term and maybe the pain that is associated with labour.

[i-need-a-martini]

Well that's interesting poddster - you and I had quite a bit of friendly banter going last night after your last crazy post about women in labour/labor.

But not only have my posts gone, but all of yours as well. Including the ones where you sai "thank You" and I replied"Your welcome".

But no email notification to say it was reported.

What's the story??

[the_great_she_elephant]

Martini, I can only guess at what the mods might have to say regarding those mysterious disappearances - but I suspect it might go something like this:

We are the very model of hysterical morality,

We can’t abide a thread that hints at sens(or sex)uality

We pounce upon each wayward post with terrible ferocity’

And hit the button marked ‘delete’ at terminal velocity.

We go about our task with utmost diligence and gravity,

We treat an earthy humour as a sign of gross depravity.

In fact in matters posted here which we deem abnormality,

We are the very model of hysterical morality.

(with apologies to W. S. Gilbert.)

[lakeland27]

somehow i seem to remember getting the impression that  nɥºɾ  doesnt intend to vote for either