on โ17-02-2015 10:00 AM
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on โ21-02-2015 12:27 AM
Rubbish.Animals Australia recorded what they did and sat on the evidence while they gathered more evidence.They knew what was going on and while they waited to build a story animals died.Simple as that.
Spot on. If they hadn't gathered more evidence they wouldn't have had a strong enough case to nail the b*stards.
They knew what thy were doing and they kept doing it until they had enough evidence to build a watertight case. We don't know at what point they went to the RSPCA - it may even be that the RSPCA told them they would need more evidence before making their move.
You also seem to forget that 4Corners did not broadcast the program until after the RSPCA had raided those properties; and while the ABC, might have been interested in ratings, the only agenda Animals Australia had was to expose the appalling and disgusting practice of live baiting which no-one in the industry wanted to admit was happening.
And how do I know the big names are "singing" because every day since more and more people have been chargedTom Noble has tried to mitigate his own guilt by implying he was pressured into live baiting by owners brought their dogs to him for training and knew what it would entail.
The only guilty parties here are the monsters who perpetrated this brutality and the gutless wonders who permitted it to happen or did a Sergeant Schultz when they knew it was happening.
on โ21-02-2015 07:25 AM
@the_great_she_elephant wrote:Rubbish.Animals Australia recorded what they did and sat on the evidence while they gathered more evidence.They knew what was going on and while they waited to build a story animals died.Simple as that.
Spot on. If they hadn't gathered more evidence they wouldn't have had a strong enough case to nail the b*stards.
They knew what thy were doing and they kept doing it until they had enough evidence to build a watertight case. We don't know at what point they went to the RSPCA - it may even be that the RSPCA told them they would need more evidence before making their move.
You also seem to forget that 4Corners did not broadcast the program until after the RSPCA had raided those properties; and while the ABC, might have been interested in ratings, the only agenda Animals Australia had was to expose the appalling and disgusting practice of live baiting which no-one in the industry wanted to admit was happening.
And how do I know the big names are "singing" because every day since more and more people have been chargedTom Noble has tried to mitigate his own guilt by implying he was pressured into live baiting by owners brought their dogs to him for training and knew what it would entail.
The only guilty parties here are the monsters who perpetrated this brutality and the gutless wonders who permitted it to happen or did a Sergeant Schultz when they knew it was happening.
They knew what thy were doing and they kept doing it until they had enough evidence to build a watertight case. We don't know at what point they went to the RSPCA - it may even be that the RSPCA told them they would need more evidence before making their move.
THEREFORE animals died that would not have died had they prosecuted after first one
on โ21-02-2015 07:30 AM
@the_great_she_elephant wrote:
@whatwouldbobdothen wrote:
@***super_nova*** wrote:
@whatwouldbobdothen wrote:
@***super_nova*** wrote:Why are people so stupid?
Owners of retired greyhounds abused in streets following Four Corners live baiting investigation
there you go.dogs cannot get adopted now .It is one thing to stop cruelty and another to whip up a storm for ratings and cause more suffering.If they cannot adopt out dogs they will put them down.
RIGHT! It is all 4 corners' fault now that the Greyhound Association does not uphold their principles? These people were repeatedly reported but nothing was done.
A University of Pennsylvania School of Veterinary Medicine study by the Center for the Interaction of Animals and Society has found that the much maligned greyhound is rated the most docile or least aggressive canine by breed.
Read more:dog safety ratingThe Aggressive Top Ten
- 1. Daschund
- 2. Chihuahua
- 3. Jack Russell Terrier
- 4. Akita
- 5. Australian Cattle Dog
- 6. Pit Bull
- 7. Beagle
- 8. English Springer Spaniel
- 9. Border Collie
- 10. German Shepherd
There is obviously coruption by club officials.WEED THEM OUT.But the point is ALSO that the people who claim to be defending animals CAUSED the the torture of animals by not acting as soon as they had the first footage.Their aim is to close down the industry and they use emotion to do it.You whinge because you say abc is being blamed but what about me?People now claim ALL of us are to blame and we clearly are not.
The more you try to defend the indefensible the more absurd your argument becomes. Animals Australia did not CAUSE any animals to be tortured theyy RECORDED it. The only people who CAUSED the suffering were the monsters who tied those animals to lures and set the dogs on them.
What do you suppose would have happened if the RSPCA and police had gone in wtith all guns blazing on the strength of one day's evidence? As likely as not nobody would have been caught red-handed, trainers who happened not to be there on that particular day would have claimed it was done without their knowedge or consent, others would have claimed the footage was either faked, photoshopped, or not clear enough to show who was actually involved.
There would have been a token inquiry, a few kennel workers would have been sacked and a couple of trainers might have had their wrists slapped. Then everyone would have patted themselves on the back, gone away and forgotten about it and the sickening practice would have continued just as before. The only difference would have been the that those involved would have made damned sure **bleep** was a lot harder to catch them out in future.
As it is, the evidence, carefully documented over multiple occasions, is not only extensive, it is irrefutable. The big names are now singing like canaries in an effort to deflect their own guilt and the snowball is growing bigger and bigger as it rolls down the hill towards the courthouse.
As it is, the evidence, carefully documented over multiple occasions, is not only extensive, it is irrefutable. The big names are now singing like canaries in an effort to deflect their own guilt and the snowball is growing bigger and bigger as it rolls down the hill towards the courthouse.
I asked for evidence of this.At least admit you had none when you said it.If you have evidence show us if and if not please admit you made it up.Show us where the "big names" are "singing like canaries".
on โ21-02-2015 07:37 AM
on โ21-02-2015 07:41 AM
@wilk1149 wrote:
Whatwouldbobdothen due to your useless abusive post earlier do you honestly think that you deserve a response. You are repugnant
I think you need to understand something.Certain ones on here ATTACK sday in and day out.They think they can say as they like.They should understand that if they can insult then so can I.
That is your problem though isnt it?You think you can attack but woe betide it comes back.
That person like many here is a low grade human.
They can say anything they like and think it is ok.If you and your internet friends want to attack expect it back.
on โ21-02-2015 07:44 AM
on โ21-02-2015 07:53 AM
@wilk1149 wrote:
You are repugnant and illogical. You are a serial blame shifter. This is proven by your statement. I understand exactly what you are and one day maybe you will too
You are showing signs of mental illness.You think that you and your friends can say anything you like and that no one can say anything back.
Some of the people on here are VILE! Dont answer me.Go away.Block me.But you need to get a mental health assessment.
on โ21-02-2015 08:01 AM
on โ21-02-2015 08:03 AM
@wilk1149 wrote:
I'm showing signs of mental illness. Where did I say that anyone can't say anything. You are the one that made derogatory statementd that were enough to have your post removed. I'm not going to block you not my style. You apparently know the ins and outs of all here yet you are blind to your true self
why do you think I said what I said?See you "forget" that the usual suspects on here can attackall they like.You have a mental illness.You need help.
on โ21-02-2015 08:48 AM
@whatwouldbobdothen wrote:Rubbish.Animals Australia recorded what they did and sat on the evidence while they gathered more evidence.They knew what was going on and while they waited to build a story animals died.Simple as that.
It has been reported, MANY TIMES, and nothing happened to these people. That is because all on the top know it is going on, and the 40 caught were just the unlucky ones. The RSPCA needs evidence, police wants evidence. If the 1st bit of footage was handed over, it would have been 1 trainer; and it would have been said he is the one bad apple etc. If police would try to raid, by the time their cars would get from the gates to the track somebody would have killed the animal used for bait and it is NOT illegal to blood with dead animal.
But do not worry, the industry will not close down, hopefully they ban for life those who do these sort of things, and the sport will be just little bit better for it. I would have thought that any greyhound owner who does not allow his dogs to be trained that way would be pleased that other dogs will not have unfair advantage over his?